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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Would you be able to record a video?

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • Bob JamesB Offline
        Bob James
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        @thomthom said:

        hmm...
        so axis lock doesn't work for you?
        πŸ˜•

        Not always

        @thomthom said:

        hmm...
        and move doesn't work? (select a vertex, activate Move, click on the vertex when the inference snaps to it and click on another vertex?) ❓ πŸ˜•

        Sometimes

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        • Bob JamesB Offline
          Bob James
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          @thomthom said:

          Would you be able to record a video?

          Yes, as soon as I can after word today (or tomorrow πŸ˜‰ )

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            That would be great. Since it's intermittent, as you report, the trigger could be under some circumstances which I'd not use it - so being able to see in-action use would help immensely. πŸ‘

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • Bob JamesB Offline
              Bob James
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              One thing: If I have a whole row or pattern of vertices already selected and want to move them (let's say "up") what does it mean when it says, "Pick two points to move......."? I've already several points "picked"????

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @bob james said:

                One thing: If I have a whole row or pattern of vertices already selected and want to move them (let's say "up") what does it mean when it says, "Pick two points to move......."? I've already several points "picked"????

                I matched the same text for Vertex Tools with the text SketchUp display for it's tools. Works just like the native Move tool.

                A "point" is a point in 3d space.
                What you select (with Vertex Tools) is a "vertex".
                (I had trouble with this when translating to Norwegian, as the words one would pick for both translated to the same word.)

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                • Bob JamesB Offline
                  Bob James
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                  It turns out that the problem (in addition to the standard numbness of my brain) appears to be the computers I am using.

                  At work (where I really need your tool) I have a three-year-old Mac Pro running Win7 under Boot Camp with two 30" monitors.
                  At home I have an i7 860 and an nVidea GTX480 running two 24" monitors.

                  At work is where I was/am having all the difficulty. At home it works fine. So I chalk it up to the "antiquity" of the setup at work.

                  In the simple test case attached, I've put a horizontal "road" around the "mountain" (it really is flat even though in perspective it doesn't look like it) and a flat plain to put the "house" on. I also attached two meshes by lifting and joining vertices to make the final mesh. I had to rotate the flat surfaces in two directions to get them horizontal, hence the request that I be able to select one of the chosen vertices (or maybe even another vertex not in the original group) as the final level for all chosen vertices.

                  I'm still not really clear on the "two points": is one a vertex and the other a point in 3D space in the direction I want to move?

                  I'm anxious to see what direction you're going to take this tool: it has great potential.


                  Simple test terrain

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                  • thomthomT Offline
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                    @bob james said:

                    I had to rotate the flat surfaces in two directions to get them horizontal, hence the request that I be able to select one of the chosen vertices (or maybe even another vertex not in the original group) as the final level for all chosen vertices.

                    I'm thinking that an extra tool is needed. One where, while you move the mouse about it picks up the normal of the face you point on, like the protractor (which you can use the shift to lock), then when you click you make the selected vertices project to that plane.

                    @bob james said:

                    I'm still not really clear on the "two points": is one a vertex and the other a point in 3D space in the direction I want to move?

                    A point refer to any 3d point in the model, a vertex is always refereed to as a vertex.
                    Like the native tool, you click one time for the start of the move and a second time for the end. None has to be anywhere on any geometry.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      I wonder what could cause one of your computers to have problems... do you have problems with other plugins? Or SU tools?

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • Bob JamesB Offline
                        Bob James
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                        @thomthom said:

                        I wonder what could cause one of your computers to have problems...

                        Beats me πŸ˜• Most probably user error πŸ˜’

                        @thomthom said:

                        do you have problems with other plugins? Or SU tools?

                        No, and I have a lot of them

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          hmm.... let me know if the same issues should manifest them selves on any other computers.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
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                            Hi Thomas!

                            Been working on a project all morning and using a lot of vertex tools to stitch two contour meshes together.

                            Not sure if this is on your list or has been mentioned previously, but have you considered adding a Vert Drop feature to your plugin? Perhaps pulling some of your testing from your Raytest tools or TIG's drape Cpoints plugin? I've been individually moving verts down on the Z axis to intersect with an adjacent mesh below and just thought what a time saver it would be if I could select a row of verts and just hit Drop. Figured I'd mention it.

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
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                              I have been toying with an idea of a feature where you pick geometry which the vertices will stop on when you move them.

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                              • EarthMoverE Offline
                                EarthMover
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                                Ahh....a Constraint feature. Very cool idea. πŸ‘ There is something similar in Modo.

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                                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  Yea - geometric constraints.

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • Bob JamesB Offline
                                    Bob James
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                                    All is well with your great tool.
                                    Attached is the current status of my major terraforming project (~95% complete).
                                    I could not have done it without Vertex Tools as the major player.
                                    All the areas around the buildings had to be modified, especially those in the upper part


                                    Rendered with Thea

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
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                                      πŸ˜„ Thanks for posting back examples of what the tool is being used for. πŸ‘

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                        xrok1
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                                        hey. how are things going with this one? any news/progress? πŸ˜„

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
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                                          Working on some other projects at the moment - but they have elements which I pull into VE. In fact, they are somewhat like prototype trials for VE.

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
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                                            When I say VE I mean Vertex Tools - I keep thinking "Vertex Edit" which was the working title...

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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