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    • brookefoxB Offline
      brookefox
      last edited by

      They often have the same effect on me. Perhaps you got some help which helped. If not, witness, if you like, another's peeves:

      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27431
      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27274

      I think the scene and style managers are due some serious surgery.

      ~ Brooke

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      • Jean LemireJ Offline
        Jean Lemire
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        Hi Lilchaka, hi folks.

        Rigth click on any scene tab.

        Choose the last choice "Scene manager".

        If you see a small + sign near the top rigth of the window that popped up, click it to expand the dialog window.

        On the bottom, below the scene name, you will see a list of the parameters that can be memorized by a scene.

        Make sure that all the parameters that you want to update are checked.

        Just ideas.

        Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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        • lilchakaL Offline
          lilchaka
          last edited by

          @dave r said:

          Go to Preferences (under the SketchUp menu on Mac) and click on General. Tick the box for Warn of style changes when creating scenes. Then when you create a new scene that has a style different from the currently selected scene, you should get a prompt box telling you the scene is different and asking you what you want to do about it. Choose Save as a new style. This will help from the get go.

          This seems to have done it for me. "Save as a new style." It's the only thing I wasn't doing properly, though I have to say that the entire "scene/style/save/update/etc." paradigm was a bit difficult to get my head around (and I'm still not sure I understand it 100%). Thanks Dave.

          What I was trying to achieve wasn't being accomplished, especially after I would see the apparent ease of something like this:

          Of course, the Warning dialogue box and the entire aspect of that particular preference setting isn't really addressed by him in that video.

          Anyway, thanks for all of the advice. Once I figured out this problem, I was halfway home. Now the only thing I need to figure out is why Sketchup doesn't like some of my scenes when I export them all as an animation. Of my 9 individual scenes, when I export everything (including the first two scenes), the last 3 (the ones with the colors and textures turned on) don't render correctly. When I delete those first two scenes, however (the two with a real primitive wireframe/sketchy look to them) then the remaining ones render fine. I guess I may just have to export the scenes in two "groups" and join them in Quicktime (though I was trying to avoid any possible jerkiness that might occur during such a cut-and-paste transition).

          If anyone has a suggestion on the animation oddity, please let me know. Otherwise, thanks for the help!

          "I am a rooster illusion."

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
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            Sounds like those scenes are set to not retain style information - meaning they have no style associated with them. They will accept whatever style is current when the scene is activated.

            You could go to them in scene manager and tick the box to make them rememeber sctyle info, and then set them to the correct style. That might help. That is just my guess of what is going on, it could be something else though,

            Chris

            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
            All my Plugins I've written

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            • lilchakaL Offline
              lilchaka
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              @chris fullmer said:

              Sounds like those scenes are set to not retain style information - meaning they have no style associated with them. They will accept whatever style is current when the scene is activated.

              Hi Chris. I don't think so, I've checked all that -- the scenes are all okay and are retaining all style attributes, etc. Also, they all display fine when I "play" the animation within Sketchup. It's just that when they're all output together as a continuous Quicktime animation those last 3 scenes (the "flashy", textured ones, so to speak) are rendered without the color or the texture, and in the very last scene the object that's the focal point turns completely black. BUT . . .

              If I don't include the first two scenes (primitive wireframe renderings) then all the rest (including the last 3) render perfectly. It's something about the first two that seems to mess up something with the last three.

              Weird.

              "I am a rooster illusion."

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                Is this s model you could upload here to the forum?

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
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                  Todd, I'm glad my suggestion helped you out. I tried exporting your scenes on my PC and had no trouble with the last few scenes. Everything seemed to work as it should. I did a quick video upload to Youtube here.

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                  • lilchakaL Offline
                    lilchaka
                    last edited by

                    Thanks Dave. I don't know what it is, then. Must be some configuration problem, or some subtle bug that I can't figure out.

                    I know we're talking about two different animals, your PC and my Mac, but if you get a chance maybe you could let me know what kind of export settings you've got set up for your animations -- codec choice, frame rate, movie size & type, etc.

                    I've tried multiple codecs (H.264, Mpeg-4, etc.) and different frame rates and still get the problem with the last 3 scenes being B&W and not color. I have no idea . . .

                    "I am a rooster illusion."

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
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                      Todd, I used the following export options.

                      640 x 480
                      FR: 29.97
                      Cinepak Codec by Radius
                      and Antialias was ticked.

                      It could also be that I am using version 7 and you are using version 6. When I get a little more time, I'll try it on my Mac which also has V7 pro on it.

                      Etaoin Shrdlu

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                      • lilchakaL Offline
                        lilchaka
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                        @chris fullmer said:

                        Is this s model you could upload here to the forum?

                        Sure, I could try.

                        "I am a rooster illusion."

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