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    • T Offline
      tfdesign
      last edited by

      PS, and sorry for the 2nd post, The moral of this story is;

      "Don't give up"

      Just because someone else tells you, you can't.

      My book "Let's SketchUp!" Download from here

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
        last edited by

        It just doesn't sound all that extreme to me, I guess. I think I'm reading between the lines a little though. I read all the words and then I think: "Oh they just want someone who can do full rendered images and videos, and compile them in Camtasia. And the person will probably be architecturally trained since they want someone who can use Revit and some basic structure software". As we pointed out, the upper ups don't know what an "expert" is. They just know they want a final product that looks like it was made by an expert.

        Which is why I think Solo could apply and be seriously considered (though I'm not sure what your Revit experience is). But as for rendereing and graphical output capabilities, Solo, you would meet their expectations of quality.

        And, it never says the position is a one man show. It could very well be a position in a small team of 3 or something. Maybe it was the other 2 who dictated what the new memeber should be able to, based on their own deficiencies πŸ˜„

        Chris

        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
        All my Plugins I've written

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        • StinkieS Offline
          Stinkie
          last edited by

          @tfdesign said:

          [For one, it is a legal requirement that companies must advertise jobs, even though they know full well that the person who is going to get the job already works as an employee, even a volunteer.

          Yeah, I know. πŸ˜‰

          @tfdesign said:

          BTW, I used to freelance, as a photographer, for The Independent and The Guardian in the early 1990's.

          Pretty cool. πŸ˜„ The Guardian ... great paper.

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          • david_hD Offline
            david_h
            last edited by

            I can't even spell Camtassssian let alone use it. But I am an absolute expert in everything else. (right)

            Knowing the architectural profession as it is right now. . .This job probably pays 10 bucks an hour. πŸ’š

            If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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            • arail1A Offline
              arail1
              last edited by

              @chris fullmer said:

              It just doesn't sound all that extreme to me, I guess.
              Chris

              Extreme?

              A required mastery of:

              Revit
              AutoCAD3D
              AutoCAD Architecture
              3DS MAX
              Photoshop
              Tekla
              Rhino
              Frank Gehry's proprietary 3D platform
              CATIA
              Bentley Microstation
              SketchUp

              and I've left out a few.

              You would have had to work at several very different offices to acquire that knowledge. I don't think there are a lot of outfits that use both AutoCAD Architecture and Bentley Microstation. And most heavy AutoCAD 3D users hand off their work to someone else to render in 3DS MAX. Throw in Revit and put it all on a resume and it sounds like someone who's been bouncing all over the map from job to job.

              And David_H is probably right - it pays $10 an hour.

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              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                Chris Fullmer
                last edited by

                Well, you have misquoted them. They ask for expert/mastery of these softwares only:

                • Revit
                • AutoCad 3d
                • 3dsMax for rendering and animation and simulations
                • Camtasia studio

                Experience with:

                • Photoshop and other graphics softwares (probably illustrator, Painter type stuff)
                • Some database or spreadsheet experience and familiarity with macros or basic logic code is beneficial

                Some experience would be beneficial of the following:

                • Tekla Structures
                • McNeel Rhino
                • Gehry Technologies Digital Project
                • CATIA
                • RAM, SAP, STAAD, ETABS, NASTRAN
                • Bentley Microstation
                • Google Sketchup and Google Earth

                And perhaps the most telling line is this one:

                @unknownuser said:

                General ability to render an image from start to finish

                It sounds to me like they just want someone who can make awesome renders and graphics using the software they own and like. And other softwares might come in handy from time to time.

                Looking at it that way, it doesn't look like nearly so much I think. Mostly just cad, Revit, 3dsMax and Camtasia. I think most architects graduate from school with experience in most of those, except maybe Camtasia. But that is not the hardest software to learn - its not like it is Autodesk's like of compositing software suite.

                Anyhow, sure it is a lot of software, and no not everyone could do it. But I think there are probably many who could. It is a professional level skillset for an arch/vis artist.

                In the end though, the most important thing is really the graphic skills. Knowing the software won't get you far if you don't have good graphic skillz.

                Chris

                Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                All my Plugins I've written

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                • arail1A Offline
                  arail1
                  last edited by

                  Okay, I concede your point.

                  But I'm still intimidated.

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    Me too!

                    Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                    All my Plugins I've written

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                    • david_hD Offline
                      david_h
                      last edited by

                      It's kinda sad in a way . .. It used to be--Back in my day (he said in a crotchety, crackly old man voice) it used to be:

                      Knowledge of Architecture and bulding systems
                      Superior Drawing Skills, Freehand and drafting. . .

                      Man. .. do I feel old.

                      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                      • arail1A Offline
                        arail1
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        It's kinda sad in a way . .. It used to be--Back in my day (he said in a crotchety, crackly old man voice) it used to be:

                        Knowledge of Architecture and bulding systems
                        Superior Drawing Skills, Freehand and drafting. . .

                        Man. .. do I feel old.

                        I saw a help wanted ad recently that called specifically for hand drafting skills. I had this image of some older guys (I'm an older guy so I can say that) who haven't changed their ways, looking for a new hire with old skills.

                        I almost answered the ad but then I thought: "Go find the old smudge powder, triangles, Mayline, rapidographs? Naw, I don't really want to go back to that."

                        Complain all I want about AutoCAD, but it doesn't smudge in the heat.

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                        • J Offline
                          joppermann
                          last edited by

                          It sounds like to me that they lost a very talented worker and they are trying to fill that person's shoe's without realizing just how valuable that person was. "Oh...so and so knew all this...the next person should too."

                          That is my impression anyway.

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                          • B Offline
                            bytor
                            last edited by

                            As a poster earlier identified - this is likley the result of the market to some degree. IMHO - this sounds much like a mix between a request to hire a structural staff member that they also wantto share and be able to do the visualization work to keep them busy. To me - is sounds like a typical HR pass-by job of asking the person running the department that is making the hire what software applications the new hire will need to be proficient at, and then the combine it with the other 1/2 position they need to hire for. You know - work requirments for 2 ormore staff and the budget to hire one. One of the reasons I feel this way - the broad spectrum of softwares that are identified cover more than one area of expertise in the industry. I am familiar with quite a few of the applications - and to be able to master some of them in combination, you would need every waking hour and then some.

                            So - likely wishfull thinking on the firms side that these requirements could be met. Dont be intimidated - the worst they can do is say No thanks! Also - I have had people (new, or potential new hires) that have identified a level of competency for numerous applications on their resume, only to find out that they "used them for a semester back in college or trade school". Which of course also turns out to be 3 versions ago, and they aren't evene familiar with the current commands or UI.

                            Just my 2 take on it!
                            Bytor

                            Find the Cost of Freedom.....

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                            • david_hD Offline
                              david_h
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I almost answered the ad but then I thought: "Go find the old smudge powder, triangles, Mayline, rapidographs? Naw, I don't really want to go back to that."

                              nor do I. And I can't. all the room on my desk is taken up by monitors!

                              If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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