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    • david_hD Offline
      david_h
      last edited by

      I can't even spell Camtassssian let alone use it. But I am an absolute expert in everything else. (right)

      Knowing the architectural profession as it is right now. . .This job probably pays 10 bucks an hour. 💚

      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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      • arail1A Offline
        arail1
        last edited by

        @chris fullmer said:

        It just doesn't sound all that extreme to me, I guess.
        Chris

        Extreme?

        A required mastery of:

        Revit
        AutoCAD3D
        AutoCAD Architecture
        3DS MAX
        Photoshop
        Tekla
        Rhino
        Frank Gehry's proprietary 3D platform
        CATIA
        Bentley Microstation
        SketchUp

        and I've left out a few.

        You would have had to work at several very different offices to acquire that knowledge. I don't think there are a lot of outfits that use both AutoCAD Architecture and Bentley Microstation. And most heavy AutoCAD 3D users hand off their work to someone else to render in 3DS MAX. Throw in Revit and put it all on a resume and it sounds like someone who's been bouncing all over the map from job to job.

        And David_H is probably right - it pays $10 an hour.

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        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
          last edited by

          Well, you have misquoted them. They ask for expert/mastery of these softwares only:

          • Revit
          • AutoCad 3d
          • 3dsMax for rendering and animation and simulations
          • Camtasia studio

          Experience with:

          • Photoshop and other graphics softwares (probably illustrator, Painter type stuff)
          • Some database or spreadsheet experience and familiarity with macros or basic logic code is beneficial

          Some experience would be beneficial of the following:

          • Tekla Structures
          • McNeel Rhino
          • Gehry Technologies Digital Project
          • CATIA
          • RAM, SAP, STAAD, ETABS, NASTRAN
          • Bentley Microstation
          • Google Sketchup and Google Earth

          And perhaps the most telling line is this one:

          @unknownuser said:

          General ability to render an image from start to finish

          It sounds to me like they just want someone who can make awesome renders and graphics using the software they own and like. And other softwares might come in handy from time to time.

          Looking at it that way, it doesn't look like nearly so much I think. Mostly just cad, Revit, 3dsMax and Camtasia. I think most architects graduate from school with experience in most of those, except maybe Camtasia. But that is not the hardest software to learn - its not like it is Autodesk's like of compositing software suite.

          Anyhow, sure it is a lot of software, and no not everyone could do it. But I think there are probably many who could. It is a professional level skillset for an arch/vis artist.

          In the end though, the most important thing is really the graphic skills. Knowing the software won't get you far if you don't have good graphic skillz.

          Chris

          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
          All my Plugins I've written

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          • arail1A Offline
            arail1
            last edited by

            Okay, I concede your point.

            But I'm still intimidated.

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
              last edited by

              Me too!

              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
              All my Plugins I've written

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              • david_hD Offline
                david_h
                last edited by

                It's kinda sad in a way . .. It used to be--Back in my day (he said in a crotchety, crackly old man voice) it used to be:

                Knowledge of Architecture and bulding systems
                Superior Drawing Skills, Freehand and drafting. . .

                Man. .. do I feel old.

                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                • arail1A Offline
                  arail1
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  It's kinda sad in a way . .. It used to be--Back in my day (he said in a crotchety, crackly old man voice) it used to be:

                  Knowledge of Architecture and bulding systems
                  Superior Drawing Skills, Freehand and drafting. . .

                  Man. .. do I feel old.

                  I saw a help wanted ad recently that called specifically for hand drafting skills. I had this image of some older guys (I'm an older guy so I can say that) who haven't changed their ways, looking for a new hire with old skills.

                  I almost answered the ad but then I thought: "Go find the old smudge powder, triangles, Mayline, rapidographs? Naw, I don't really want to go back to that."

                  Complain all I want about AutoCAD, but it doesn't smudge in the heat.

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                  • J Offline
                    joppermann
                    last edited by

                    It sounds like to me that they lost a very talented worker and they are trying to fill that person's shoe's without realizing just how valuable that person was. "Oh...so and so knew all this...the next person should too."

                    That is my impression anyway.

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                    • B Offline
                      bytor
                      last edited by

                      As a poster earlier identified - this is likley the result of the market to some degree. IMHO - this sounds much like a mix between a request to hire a structural staff member that they also wantto share and be able to do the visualization work to keep them busy. To me - is sounds like a typical HR pass-by job of asking the person running the department that is making the hire what software applications the new hire will need to be proficient at, and then the combine it with the other 1/2 position they need to hire for. You know - work requirments for 2 ormore staff and the budget to hire one. One of the reasons I feel this way - the broad spectrum of softwares that are identified cover more than one area of expertise in the industry. I am familiar with quite a few of the applications - and to be able to master some of them in combination, you would need every waking hour and then some.

                      So - likely wishfull thinking on the firms side that these requirements could be met. Dont be intimidated - the worst they can do is say No thanks! Also - I have had people (new, or potential new hires) that have identified a level of competency for numerous applications on their resume, only to find out that they "used them for a semester back in college or trade school". Which of course also turns out to be 3 versions ago, and they aren't evene familiar with the current commands or UI.

                      Just my 2 take on it!
                      Bytor

                      Find the Cost of Freedom.....

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                      • david_hD Offline
                        david_h
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        I almost answered the ad but then I thought: "Go find the old smudge powder, triangles, Mayline, rapidographs? Naw, I don't really want to go back to that."

                        nor do I. And I can't. all the room on my desk is taken up by monitors!

                        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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