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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice

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    • Chris FullmerC Offline
      Chris Fullmer
      last edited by

      Hehe, TIG, I also used it to make that same shape last night. It was very easy to do. But I noticed a few things. The extrude by face by rails that I tried first did not ever allow me to have the triangulation. It just cleaned it up automatically, or else never even put it in place - I'm not sure which.

      But this lattice one did add the triangulation, but only if I chose to use a 3d shape. If I just did a line, then it never add the triangulation.

      I wouldn't mind ALWAYS having the option to keep the triangulation.

      Seriously awesome stuff TIG, keep it up!

      Chris

      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
      All my Plugins I've written

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        @chris fullmer said:

        Hehe, TIG, I also used it to make that same shape last night. It was very easy to do. But I noticed a few things. The extrude by face by rails that I tried first did not ever allow me to have the triangulation. It just cleaned it up automatically, or else never even put it in place - I'm not sure which.
        But this lattice one did add the triangulation, but only if I chose to use a 3d shape. If I just did a line, then it never add the triangulation.
        I wouldn't mind ALWAYS having the option to keep the triangulation.
        Seriously awesome stuff TIG, keep it up!
        Chris

        To get a full mesh that's triangulated use plain 'EEbyRails'.
        When the mesh done don't smooth it etc.
        Then you edit the mesh-group and select all, then deselect the edges [there are various tools to do this - I have my own but thomthom's selection-toys works well...].
        Delete the faces - now you have the full mesh with triangles make from lines only...
        The tool 'EEbyRailsToLattice' was written to do a 3D lattice or the profiles/rails rib-lines as simple separated curves - so you can use them for other things - like 'EEbyFace' using different profiles for different parts...
        🤓

        TIG

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        • D Offline
          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
          last edited by

          Tig, plugins excellent. Thank you very much for their continued contributions and new ideas.
          The plugin works perfect.
          I use latest version of sketchup in Spanish and windows XP sp3 in Spanish
          Only I make two suggestions

          **a - You can place the panels and the Mesh into separate layer or different groups?

          b - could change the names of the . lingvo, add a number.
          It is easier to delete files that are not used
          *.

          example:

          01 - extrudeEdgesByLoftEN-US.lingvo
          02 - extrudeEdgesByLoftES.lingvo
          03 - extrudeEdgesByLoftFA.lingvo
          04 - extrudeEdgesByLoftFR.lingvo
          05 - extrudeEdgesByLoftZH-CN.lingvo

          01 - extrudeEdgesByRailsEN-US.lingvo
          02 - extrudeEdgesByRailsES.lingvo
          03 - extrudeEdgesByRailsFA.lingvo
          04 - extrudeEdgesByRailsFR.lingvo
          05 - extrudeEdgesByRailsZH-CN.lingvo

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          • Didier BurD Offline
            Didier Bur
            last edited by

            Hi TIG,
            Here is the french lingvo file.
            You're making great progress in french, just several typos were remaining 😉
            Best regards,


            extrudeEdgesByRailsToLatticeFR.zip

            DB

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            • TIGT Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by

              Thanks Didier, Pilou also just did one - I'll make a compilation of both... 😄

              TIG

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                New zipped set is now available [ http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239 ], with minor tweaks to text for lingvo files. New ES=Defisto and FR=DidierBur + Pilou. Flat faces at z=0 are now auto-reversed.
                🤓

                TIG

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  The script in the zipped set has been updated...
                  'Face.offset' is now reworked to be more robust and 'in class'
                  [i.e. now offset.rb is not needed].
                  Panes now get the 'back_material'.

                  TIG

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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Tip
                    You are prompted to erase coplanar edges if the faces can survive without triangulation divisions.
                    To ensure that you get 'flat' quad faces make sure that the profiles and rails are identical [perhaps copy them].
                    Here is one with the coplanar triangulation left in...Capture.PNG This one had them erased before the lattice was made...Capture1.PNG

                    TIG

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      That rules now 👍 😎
                      fine2.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Here's another form...Capture.PNG

                        TIG

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          And anotherCapture.PNG

                          TIG

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            😉

                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=47505

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • S Offline
                              saturne45
                              last edited by

                              TREILLIS 01.pngTreillis 01TREILLIS 05.pngTREILLIS 03.png

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                              • olisheaO Offline
                                olishea
                                last edited by

                                this is seriously amazing! been playing with it for hours now! just a question TIG: is there a way to group separately the "glass panes" from the frame? so the frame is one group and the panes are another...... 😕

                                oli

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                                • N Offline
                                  notareal
                                  last edited by

                                  Wow, you did it again!

                                  Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @olishea said:

                                    this is seriously amazing! been playing with it for hours now! just a question TIG: is there a way to group separately the "glass panes" from the frame? so the frame is one group and the panes are another...... 😕

                                    Give the frames and panes different colors - say 'red' and 'glass'.
                                    Edit the group and select a pane.
                                    Right-click Context-menu > Select > All with same Material...
                                    All the panes are selected, Right-click Context-menu > Group.
                                    Repeat for the frames.
                                    You now have the original lattice group that contains two sub-groups - one for the panes the other for the frames.
                                    Re-color them as desired.
                                    One of the reasons I gave a limited 'rainbow' of colors+glass was to avoid long material lists in the dialog which always causes grief when the color you want is off the screen... and as explained above you can always select everything by a material and apply any color/material onto them that you like later on... 🤓

                                    TIG

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      playing:


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_011_th.jpg


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_012_th.jpg


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_013_th.jpg


                                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_014_th.jpg

                                      I don't see how I could do the same with else tools ❓
                                      *s

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        I don't see how I could do the same with else tools

                                        Maybe 2 faces + path + FFD(or fredoscale) 😉

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          Thank you so much Dear Tig for this new amazing tool. 👍 👍

                                          @tig said:

                                          Tip
                                          You are prompted to erase coplanar edges if the faces can survive without triangulation divisions.
                                          To ensure that you get 'flat' quad faces make sure that the profiles and rails are identical [perhaps copy them].

                                          Pretty good tip!

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_001_th.jpg

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          ../
                                          Edit the group and select a pane.
                                          Right-click Context-menu > Select > All with same Material...
                                          All the panes are selected, Right-click Context-menu > Group.
                                          Repeat for the frames.

                                          I wanted to tell this one, but I'm outstripped by TIG 😄

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_002_th.jpg

                                          another interesting result is to adjust the depth to 0 in order to get a flat frame
                                          (and use soften & smooth for a simple aspect)

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_003_th.jpg


                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_004_th.jpg


                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          The tool 'EEbyRailsToLattice' was written to do a 3D lattice or the profiles/rails rib-lines as simple separated curves - so you can use them for other things - like 'EEbyFace' using different profiles for different parts...
                                          🤓

                                          Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + ExtrudeEdgesBy2Faces

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_005_th.jpg


                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_006_th.jpg

                                          Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + ExtrudeEdgesByEdges

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_007_th.jpg

                                          Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + ExtrudeEdgesByEdges + ExtrudeEdgesByRailsByFace

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_008_th.jpg


                                          Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + Chris Fullmer tools

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_009_th.jpg

                                          Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice + Didier Bur "lines to tubes" (with and without EEbRtL)

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/EEbRtL_010_th.jpg

                                          etc.. etc..

                                          Vast possibilities 👍 👍

                                          %(#0000BF)[Dear TIG, may I comment ? 😕
                                          -Extrude Edges by Rails to Lattice uses only ExtrudeEdgesByEdges. I would be really cool if we would be able to pick curves the same starting from ExtrudeEdgesByLoft and also from ExtrudeEdgesBy2Faces or from ExtrudeEdgesByLathe !
                                          -Do you think it would be possible to select also the diagonal curves family?]

                                          with my friendly respect, simon.

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=242239#p242239
                                            It now has 'Diagonals' as an option.
                                            Reversing the order of picking the Rails swaps the direction of the diagonals.
                                            The lingvo files have been updated to match.

                                            TIG

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