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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      I'm finally giving Layout a try. I've set up some pages of a model I made. And I wanted to add a title area on each page. So I created a new layer and toggled the little icon to the right of the Layer name so the layer now is a Shared Layer. I then selected that and drew some stuff - but it only appears on one page - not all of them. What gives?
      I selected all the entities an did Put on Layer when the shared layer was active just to be 100% sure the entities was on the correct layer.

      Have I missed something in the way Layout works?

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        ...

        After saving the file. Then reloading it - all the stuff I put on the shared layer is not gone! 😲 whut whut whut??

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Hm. I don't know, Thom. I hve a template set up with an already "prepared" layer that says "On every page" and which is shared and as I just tried, anything I put there is shared all across every page. Also, I made my "Default" layer shared just out of curiosity and anything drawn on that layer now appears everywhere, too.

          Are you sure your title blocks are really on this shared layer? When you select your entities on this layer (the layer needs to be unlocked first), a small, blue dot appears before the layer name.

          Gai...

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            @gaieus said:

            Are you sure your title blocks are really on this shared layer? When you select your entities on this layer (the layer needs to be unlocked first), a small, blue dot appears before the layer name.

            Yes. And after saving and later opening the file the entities where missing.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              Missing entities happened before as well.
              I added some text to label some rooms - that was gone when I loaded the file later on.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • dcauldwellD Offline
                dcauldwell
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                Thomas

                One thing to watch, which I fell foul of to start with, is that visibility is determined by the order of the layer stack. Items on the top layer may obscure items on lower layers, so your stuff may still be there. Try turning off the visibilty of the upper layers and check. Also it is easy to inadvertently put stuff on one of those lower layers.

                If it helps, I have just 4 layers as follows:

                USER CONTENT (mainly for text)
                VIEWS (for the model views)
                DWG TITLE (as the name suggests!)
                ON EVERY PAGE (again as the name suggests, this is the shared layer for title panel etc)

                Also it helps enormously to lock layers after you have prepared them, as its all too easy to end up moving stuff by mistake.

                Also I stopped using the 'vector' view of the model as it takes forever to regen.

                Hope this helps

                David

                Sketchup 2017
                (vray 2.00)

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  I created the shared layer on top of everything else. And there other layers where locked.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    Now come on, Thom, time to upload a problematic file (although I understand that for you things may disappear when saving and closing)

                    Gai...

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Yea - I'll be uploading it when I get home.

                      ...I have a sneaking suspicion that I will have a face-palm moment... πŸ˜’

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        Well, I can't reproduce it. When I opened the file now, and drew on the shared layer I created last time it worked.

                        But I have no idea why some of the geometry disappeared.

                        Wasn't working then, works now. Of course... πŸ˜’

                        (btw are .layout files standalone or does it require the .skp files inserted?)


                        Herjuan 791.layout


                        Herjuan 791 - 45 Grader Skygger - Justert.skp

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          .layout file can be without an skp file. In fact, it's a simple zip file (like kmz or skm files) and contains a bunch of xml files (that make up your pages and all) and if there is a model inserted, the skp file, too.

                          A good practice is to insert text from rtf files, too (no copy/paste but insert from the File menu). This will also make sure that your texts are contained as such files in the LO file should anything go wrong and you can extract them any time you want. Also, LO is supposed to keep the formatting of these rtf files (like lists for instance - that you cannot format in LO although I think you can in the Mac version).

                          Gai...

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                          • B Offline
                            bjanzen
                            last edited by

                            A layer could disappear because something is in front of it, or if the layer inspector is hidden (the little eye in the Layers inspector). Things are also drawn in order on each layer, so right clicking items on a layer, you can "Arrange->" and move forward or backward in the drawing order. Also, if you group items on different layers, it will bring them to the front-most layer. If you select an entity, you'll see a little blue dot in the layers inspector to indicate what layer it's on.

                            Keep posting questions, because I'm sure there are other newbies that don't know but don't ask.

                            b

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