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    • mitcorbM Offline
      mitcorb
      last edited by

      Hi, TIG:

      @unknownuser said:

      I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
      It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !

      Regarding your above reply, I was contemplating the action of the plugin from a purely qualitative point of view, as I am no coder. I was just wondering if- perhaps- disabling the minimum length default and the minimum angle default as part of the process would help. I really am just guessing.
      I have noticed that the resultant construction tends to drift away from the original curves, even some features of FredoScale do this. So, maybe somehow the length and angle have something to do with it?

      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        I haven't had a chance to investigate this yet... Since each form is an iteration of the last I suspect that there's some cumulative errors creeping in ? TBC...

        TIG

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        • mitcorbM Offline
          mitcorb
          last edited by

          Ok.
          Your reply makes more sense.
          I was really just throwing out some kind of idea if it would help.

          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=224219#p224219

            1.8 20100312 Erasure of original curves glitch fixed.

            TIG

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            • T Offline
              tald311
              last edited by

              That is amazing!

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              • S Offline
                sepo
                last edited by

                I am not able to get extrude edges by face or extrude edges by faces or extrude edges by rails by face to work. They all give me the message like on attached image and if I click OK I start losing the profiles created. What am I doing wrong. BTW I have installed demo of Thea. I wonder if the export plugin is making problem. The loft, lathe and extrude edges by rails works no problem. I am using latest version of the extrusion tools.


                screengrab.jpg

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by

                  The "profile's" face must be flat facing up [or down] in the Z [blue] axis.
                  Try again with that... ❓

                  TIG

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                  • S Offline
                    sepo
                    last edited by

                    😳 yes ...it works now....after reading in detail....

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                    • M Offline
                      monkeybss
                      last edited by

                      But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @monkeybss said:

                        But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

                        None that I know of...

                        Are you completely sure you are following the instructions: you do have have curve 'paths' ready and a single flat face selected etc ?
                        Do you get any error messages in the Ruby Console when trying to use the tool[s] ?

                        EEbyFace needs some preselected edges/curves as paths and a preselected flat face.

                        EEbyRailsByFace needs 2/3/4 curves and a face - you preselect the face then choose the four curves to form the 'mesg' ribs - as profile, rail1, rail2 [can be 'rail1' again] and melding_profile [can be 'profile' again] (that's what I said, "...2/3/4 curves..."). The curves should have a modest number of segments and work best with the same or multiples of segments in the profiles/rails - although uneven segmentation will work, uneven 'meshes' can result as the unevenness is ironed out...

                        😕

                        TIG

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                          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                          last edited by

                          Tig.
                          a query.
                          Why? When the Rails have different number of segments in the rail less divisive segments of different lengths

                          could divide the rail in lengths equal?

                          [flash=853,505:2alsp9zu]http://www.youtube.com/v/NzdgTrjqodg&fs=1[/flash:2alsp9zu]

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Because rails are curves and these have segments if you give them the same number of segments then they are an even mesh, but if you don't the script tries to even out the mesh as much as possible: so 12+12 is fine [12 ribs], but 12+13 means that we need to squeeze an extra one into the 12 set [13 ribs]. We must run from node to node, we can't spring from a random point along a segment ? The sure way to even up unmatched rails would be to multiply the segments together - e.g 12x13=156 ribs - far too many !!!

                            TIG

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                              DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                              last edited by

                              I have tried.
                              and note that using multiples of the number of segments. for example
                              Rails1 12segment and Rails2 24segmen
                              Rails1 12segment and Rails2 36segmen
                              Rails1 12segment and Rails2 48segmen
                              divisions that are generated in the mesh are equal.

                              however if we use number of segments that are not multiples.
                              divisions that are generated in the mesh are not equal.

                              could enter the number of divisions after selecting the rails and profiles?
                              could preview a mesh phantom, similar to extrudelathe. and create changes in the number of divisions of the rails and profiles?

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                              • broomstickB Offline
                                broomstick
                                last edited by

                                YOU THE MAN TIG!!

                                First attempt: 30 seconds of calculation!!

                                http://mezzalisca.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/extrude1.jpg

                                Same structure, using extrude edges by rails to do the panes!!

                                http://mezzalisca.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/extrude2.jpg

                                Is it magic? I think it is!!

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Does somebody have already thought of that fantastic kind of Eebrbf possibilities ?


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_028_th.jpg

                                  In order to achieve the left figure: -> ->

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TIGeebfbr_029_th.jpg

                                  😉 😉 simon

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                                  • pilouP Offline
                                    pilou
                                    last edited by

                                    And at the end you can now rotate each "lines volumes" between them! 😉

                                    For the pleasure of the eyes ☀
                                    A geometric study by Cristobal Vila

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                    • simon le bonS Offline
                                      simon le bon
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Pilou,
                                      Isfahan is a pure Gem (as you sometimes like to say) It would deserve a dedicated thread IMO.
                                      (I would like to know what softs Cristobal Vila had used.)

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      And at the end you can now rotate each "lines volumes" between them! 😉

                                      Can you please explain further. I don't understand what you mean. What you say let me think I have missed an important enhancement.. ❓

                                      A remark for TIG:
                                      Here and there, the process make Su krashes whith the following message: BUG SPLAT RC _ RESOURCE DLL NOT FOUND
                                      Is there some manipulations to avoid?

                                      *simon

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        It would deserve a dedicated thread IMO.

                                        I believe that it's yet exist somewhere in this forum 😉

                                        Cristobal uses in general Electric Image! It's a big fan of it 😉

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        I don't understand what you mean. What you say let me think I have missed an important enhancement.

                                        You absolutly no missed something 😄
                                        Is just that your final example is some "Flat"
                                        So if you take each form you can rotate it 😉

                                        rotate.png

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • simon le bonS Offline
                                          simon le bon
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Electric Image Animation System v8.0 EIAS 8 full version $895.00

                                          😎 not for me dear Pilou

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          You absolutly no missed something 😄

                                          Oh! I see! 😉

                                          In my mind that wasn't really an "exemple" to show but a potential to point out. ->How can we obtain else way a regular evolution of a curve from a shape to another in SU without any calculation? I see plenty of possible applications in architecture..
                                          -> the other possibility offers a great time saving in building fences, trellis, framework...

                                          Here is a quick rather poor exemple

                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch001_th.jpg


                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch003_th.jpg


                                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/TigChurch004_th.jpg

                                          😕 s

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            yes you have also the 2 faces + path who give the evolution of a curve/ surface 😉

                                            http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=32785

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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