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    [Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails by Face

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    • mitcorbM Offline
      mitcorb
      last edited by

      TIG:
      Please see attached skp of a new series using EExRxF.
      First panel: 4 Bezier curves.
      Second panel: Curves repositioned. Ends touching.
      Third, fourth and fifth panels show profiles, then rails then both.
      Groups were moved away from the originating curves along the Y axis with Select, Move. Note degradation of curves.
      Also, on the fifth panel the prompt was something like "Error: Cannot perform extrusion", then it proceeded, and that is what you see.
      EDIT:
      What I forgot to tell you on the previous post was that the same error comment occurred on that model in each case. But it proceeded anyway.
      I hope this example will help. And thanks again.


      TIG.EExRxF.exper20100301.skp

      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        Thanks [?]
        I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
        It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !
        This is all a mess !
        Until I track down the cause of this I recommend to users - as you have already - to save your work and always use a copy of the curves with EEbyRbyFace as they might be lost/messed with inadvertently - I'm bogged down in other stuff at the moment but I'll look at a fix asap... 😒

        TIG

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        • mitcorbM Offline
          mitcorb
          last edited by

          Thanks[?] Yes, thanks for the fact that you have opened up new possibilities and perspectives with this suite of tools. Even if they need to be fine tuned.
          Again, I applaud your talent.

          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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          • ken28875K Offline
            ken28875
            last edited by

            WOW, amazing plugin! 👍 👍

            Thank you so much, TIG!

            Have a wonderful day!

            _KN

            Follow Your Dreams.

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            • ken28875K Offline
              ken28875
              last edited by

              Hi TIG,

              The plug is working, but I get that error message.

              http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/ken28875/Sketchup/EEbEbR_error.jpg

              Thanks,

              _KN

              Follow Your Dreams.

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                @TIG
                A suggestion : does it possible to have an option for have "surfaces" (inwards & outwards) for use the Windowizer for exemple!
                An automatic EEbR in the same time?


                structure1.png

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • TIGT Offline
                  TIG Moderator
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                  Pilou

                  I the first example I made I explained a process...
                  Use the curves twice - as profiles/rails and make a smooth mesh with EEbyRails, and give its group a 'glass' material.
                  Then make the 'frames' using this tool - EEbyRailsByFace; give its group the 'frame' material.
                  Edit the glass-mesh group and select the faces and intersect with model - the glass panels will now get edges coincident with the frames...
                  You can explode the frames' groups and intersect them too...
                  Here's an example...EEbyXXX.png

                  TIG

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    yes you right, it's the more simple! ☀

                    Suggestion : a different "surface" for the borders

                    (click image if scrollbarr)
                    test.png

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • mitcorbM Offline
                      mitcorb
                      last edited by

                      Hi, TIG:

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I see the problem - I can even get different results each time I run it !
                      It shouldn't affect existing curves and it should either make the extrusions OR not - the error message appears when it has failed to make an extrusion - which it does on say the first profile but succeeds thereafter !

                      Regarding your above reply, I was contemplating the action of the plugin from a purely qualitative point of view, as I am no coder. I was just wondering if- perhaps- disabling the minimum length default and the minimum angle default as part of the process would help. I really am just guessing.
                      I have noticed that the resultant construction tends to drift away from the original curves, even some features of FredoScale do this. So, maybe somehow the length and angle have something to do with it?

                      I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        I haven't had a chance to investigate this yet... Since each form is an iteration of the last I suspect that there's some cumulative errors creeping in ? TBC...

                        TIG

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                        • mitcorbM Offline
                          mitcorb
                          last edited by

                          Ok.
                          Your reply makes more sense.
                          I was really just throwing out some kind of idea if it would help.

                          I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            Here's an update http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=224219#p224219

                            1.8 20100312 Erasure of original curves glitch fixed.

                            TIG

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                            • T Offline
                              tald311
                              last edited by

                              That is amazing!

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                              • S Offline
                                sepo
                                last edited by

                                I am not able to get extrude edges by face or extrude edges by faces or extrude edges by rails by face to work. They all give me the message like on attached image and if I click OK I start losing the profiles created. What am I doing wrong. BTW I have installed demo of Thea. I wonder if the export plugin is making problem. The loft, lathe and extrude edges by rails works no problem. I am using latest version of the extrusion tools.


                                screengrab.jpg

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  The "profile's" face must be flat facing up [or down] in the Z [blue] axis.
                                  Try again with that... ❓

                                  TIG

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                                    sepo
                                    last edited by

                                    😳 yes ...it works now....after reading in detail....

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                                    • M Offline
                                      monkeybss
                                      last edited by

                                      But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @monkeybss said:

                                        But not for me! I've tried all possibilities and the Extrude Edges by Face doesn't work! Is there some other plugin that interferes ?

                                        None that I know of...

                                        Are you completely sure you are following the instructions: you do have have curve 'paths' ready and a single flat face selected etc ?
                                        Do you get any error messages in the Ruby Console when trying to use the tool[s] ?

                                        EEbyFace needs some preselected edges/curves as paths and a preselected flat face.

                                        EEbyRailsByFace needs 2/3/4 curves and a face - you preselect the face then choose the four curves to form the 'mesg' ribs - as profile, rail1, rail2 [can be 'rail1' again] and melding_profile [can be 'profile' again] (that's what I said, "...2/3/4 curves..."). The curves should have a modest number of segments and work best with the same or multiples of segments in the profiles/rails - although uneven segmentation will work, uneven 'meshes' can result as the unevenness is ironed out...

                                        😕

                                        TIG

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                                          DIEGO-RODRIGUEZ
                                          last edited by

                                          Tig.
                                          a query.
                                          Why? When the Rails have different number of segments in the rail less divisive segments of different lengths

                                          could divide the rail in lengths equal?

                                          [flash=853,505:2alsp9zu]http://www.youtube.com/v/NzdgTrjqodg&fs=1[/flash:2alsp9zu]

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            Because rails are curves and these have segments if you give them the same number of segments then they are an even mesh, but if you don't the script tries to even out the mesh as much as possible: so 12+12 is fine [12 ribs], but 12+13 means that we need to squeeze an extra one into the 12 set [13 ribs]. We must run from node to node, we can't spring from a random point along a segment ? The sure way to even up unmatched rails would be to multiply the segments together - e.g 12x13=156 ribs - far too many !!!

                                            TIG

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