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    • soloS Offline
      solo
      last edited by

      Dang!! those video tutorials are great, clear and concise.
      I need to get my teeth into this app, it looks excellent.

      Was watching the Nurbs video, why could'nt everything be this easy?

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      • utilerU Offline
        utiler
        last edited by

        Exactly, Pete. It looks way too easy.

        And self healing geometry when inserting components??????

        My wish for SU4, and SU5, and 6, and 7, and.....

        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @utiler said:

          If there's ever been a feature required in SU it is this: the ability to cut 2 planes with a component.

          That's possible - by nesting two sections cuts in a group/component.

          @utiler said:

          And self healing geometry when inserting components??????
          My wish for SU4, and SU5, and 6, and 7, and.....

          SU self heal its cut-out component. ...but 2D only.... πŸ˜•

          But have you looked at the photomatching? b3d got it right - picking points on the model and the photo. no messing about with fiddly handles.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • T Offline
            tfdesign
            last edited by

            @utiler said:

            Exactly, Pete. It looks way too easy.

            And self healing geometry when inserting components??????

            My wish for SU4, and SU5, and 6, and 7, and.....

            Google, are you listening? There's anew kid in town. Are you gonna let those boots walk right over you? πŸ˜’ πŸ˜„

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            • utilerU Offline
              utiler
              last edited by

              Sure Thomas, you can nest section cuts in a component. but then to be able to move the component after insertion and have the associated geometry follow is the key.

              I did have a look at matching photos, just like the rest of Bonzai; it seems ridiculously simple....

              It is interesting to note too, that quite a few 'freeform' plugins that have been developed by the talented guys here in the past year or so replicate similar function to Bonzai.
              Or am I seeing things.....?

              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                wondering where i should go to ask for super simple step-by-steps with bonzai.. (ala the newbie forum here)
                i dunno, you guys are finding the bonzai interface so simple but not me 😞
                iRhino is still looking much more attractive to me as i can actually draw things with it.

                dotdotdot

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
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                  Jeff, have you checked out the videos on their site?

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                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                    jeff hammond
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    Jeff, have you checked out the videos on their site?

                    yeah, i have.. they are good sales pitches and have helped me figure out certain things but there aren't any videos/tuts (that i've found) that take you through drawing an actual object.. it's always 'check me out making this random thing with no direction/goal'

                    the rhino tuts are helpful for people like me.. step by step for drawing things such as pliers or something that i have no business drawing but i can apply those steps to things that i actually need to draw.

                    anyway, one basic thing that i can't figure out is this:

                    screen 2.jpg

                    the fillet tool doesn't seem to work on arcs.
                    anyone?

                    dotdotdot

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                    • B Offline
                      bonzai3d support
                      last edited by

                      Step 1: Right click on the arc and pick 'Show Controls' from the popup menu:

                      http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2946/76105667.jpg

                      Step 2: Edit the angular control on the arc so both objects overlap:

                      http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6422/32217101.jpg

                      Step 3: Activate the trim tool and click the parts of both objects you want to keep:

                      http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5656/57630160.jpg

                      Explore * Design * Deliver
                      http://www.bonzai3d.com
                      Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by

                        hey b3ds, thanks for chiming in
                        but...

                        i was talking about the other way.. in SU, i used to have a lengthy workaround for this until TIG wrote the TrueTangents ruby.. in rhino, it's much easier: (it's one operation with the option to trim/join automatically)

                        screen 3.jpg
                        screen 4.jpg

                        dotdotdot

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                        • X Offline
                          xrok1
                          last edited by

                          i think you could use the fillet tool once the arc and line are joined. correct me if i'm wrong.

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @xrok1 said:

                            i think you could use the fillet tool once the arc and line are joined. correct me if i'm wrong.

                            ha! you are right
                            thanks

                            dotdotdot

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                            • X Offline
                              xrok1
                              last edited by

                              ahh, yes, trim them then use the join tool to connect them, then the fillet will work.

                              β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                              • ken28875K Offline
                                ken28875
                                last edited by

                                Hi all,

                                I just realized that so many people have heard about Bonzai3D. I just found out about that program today and went to their website to check it out. This is really a Sketchup clone but with some tools that sketchup does not have.

                                I was particularly interested in the videos about Bulge, Bending, Sweep, Revolve/Helices, Stairs, Thickness, Nurbs and Maetrials/Texture mapping.

                                Although some plugins from the SU ruby genius can replicate the same functions than the ones in the videos, it might take a little bit more work.

                                I have been using Sketchup since it came out 10 years ago and love it, therefore I don't want to give up on it and try to learn a new program. But I am quite interested in trying Bonzai3D and see how good it is compared to SU.

                                It seems like it allows to import/export in Skp format. Maybe this is a good thing to model back and forth between both programs.

                                Has anyone used it what are your thoughts on that new software?

                                Thanks and have a terrific day! β˜€

                                _KN

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                                • T Offline
                                  tfdesign
                                  last edited by

                                  This is a classic example of why I don't get on that well with Mac Rhino. There is no history (yet). Once you've made, say a fillet like the one above, it's impossible to correct later on, without redrafting the whole corner again. Does FormZ have a history? What about Bonzai3D? (I've been paying too much attention to importing SAT files to notice 😳 )

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @xrok1 said:

                                    ahh, yes, trim them then use the join tool to connect them, then the fillet will work.

                                    meh, there seems to be some quirks with it still.. might sign up at the bonzai forum and post there.

                                    dotdotdot

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @ken28875 said:

                                      This is really a Sketchup clone but with some tools that sketchup does not have.

                                      On the surface it might look similar. But it's fundamentally a different modelling tool.
                                      SketchUp is a surface modeller. While Bonzai is a NURBS modeller. Significant difference there.

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                      • utilerU Offline
                                        utiler
                                        last edited by

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        On the surface it might look similar. But it's fundamentally a different modelling tool.
                                        SketchUp is a surface modeller. While Bonzai is a NURBS modeller. Significant difference there.

                                        Good point, Thom.

                                        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          The Photomatch is absolutely superior to SU.

                                          Question is, is there a format I can export from B3D from, that will preserve the view(s) set up in a b3s model when importing to SU?

                                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            Aaaah! I've been fighting this PhotoMatch job in SU for my current project. I just can't get it correct. In B3D I got it fitting in 30secs! x_X Now how do I get this into SU? Need to render in VfSU.

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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