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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      I can imagine you would like that syntax highlight! I use Notepad++ and know what a difference it is!

      Coen and Tavi should be spoken to about these things.

      Gai...

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @adamb said:

        I see a lot of SU scripts using some of the more compact iterators Ruby iterators. So they might read nice, but they're often slower than just simple for-loops.

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        In regard to this should one init the variables used by for in to speed up things? or is that not needed?

        Would this
        ` x = 0
        for x in collection

        ...

        endbe faster than for x in collection

        ...

        end`

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        • AdamBA Offline
          AdamB
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          no

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          • J Offline
            Jim
            last edited by

            I've always thought for used each under the hood.

            http://blog.grayproductions.net/articles/the_evils_of_the_for_loop

            for loops do not have their own scope - the loop variable and any variables created in the loop become available (or are over-written) in the current scope.

            With .each, variables are local to the block {..}

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              @jim said:

              I've always thought for used each under the hood.

              http://blog.grayproductions.net/articles/the_evils_of_the_for_loop

              for loops do not have their own scope - the loop variable and any variables created in the loop become available (or are over-written) in the current scope.

              If you click the method names in the Ruby API manual you get to see the sourcecode:
              http://ruby-doc.org/core/classes/Array.html#M002173

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              • J Offline
                Jim
                last edited by

                That's showing a for loop in the c language.

                Hi

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  That's what it's doing under the hood.

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                  • J Offline
                    Jim
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    That's what it's doing under the hood.

                    Right, so where is the definition for the for function?

                    The answer is there isn't one because for is not a function, but is "sugar". The for loop in Ruby really uses the .each method behind the scenes.

                    Although, I can't recall where I learned that. The link to the blog article mentions it, though.

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                    • tbdT Offline
                      tbd
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                      speaking of each vs for :

                      loop1 = []
                      loop2 = []
                      
                      calls = ["one", "two", "three"]
                      
                      calls.each do |c|
                        loop1 << Proc.new { puts c }
                      end
                      
                      for c in calls
                        loop2 << Proc.new { puts c }
                      end
                      
                      loop1[1].call #=> "two"
                      loop2[1].call #=> "three"
                      

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                      • Dan RathbunD Offline
                        Dan Rathbun
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                        @jim said:

                        The for loop in Ruby really uses the .each method behind the scenes. ... Although, I can't recall where I learned that.

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                        • J Offline
                          Jim
                          last edited by

                          I guess to get back on topic, for loops are not faster then .each iterators. The performance must have to do with how the for loop variables are not loop scoped, as in each.

                          Hi

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            Came across this link:
                            http://www.h3rald.com/articles/efficient-ruby-code-shortcut-review/

                            On that list it says
                            @unknownuser said:

                            Use parallel assignment (a, b = 5, 6) where applicable

                            while at this link:
                            http://www.hxa.name/articles/content/ruby-speed-guide_hxa7241_2007.html

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Avoid parallel assignment

                            😒

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @thomthom said:

                              Came across this link:
                              http://www.h3rald.com/articles/efficient-ruby-code-shortcut-review/

                              On that list it says
                              @unknownuser said:

                              Use parallel assignment (a, b = 5, 6) where applicable

                              while at this link:
                              http://www.hxa.name/articles/content/ruby-speed-guide_hxa7241_2007.html

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Avoid parallel assignment

                              😒

                              I just bought the ebook and that review summary was wrong - parallel assignments are not recommended for performance important tasks.
                              Interesting read that book btw.

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                                MartinRinehart
                                last edited by

                                Let's see - for performance I'm going to avoid iterations, arrays, hashes and objects.

                                What's left?

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
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                                  @martinrinehart said:

                                  What's left?

                                  puts "Hello World" 😄

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                                  • AdamBA Offline
                                    AdamB
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                                    @jim said:

                                    I guess to get back on topic, for loops are not faster then .each iterators. The performance must have to do with how the for loop variables are not loop scoped, as in each.

                                    "Your racing car is not faster than my Trabant, it just covers more ground in a shorter time than my car." 😄

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                                      cjthompson
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                                      Has anyone looked into Enumerable.grep()? it seems pretty useful, but I don't know how fast it is.

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                                      • J Offline
                                        Jim
                                        last edited by

                                        @adamb said:

                                        @jim said:

                                        I guess to get back on topic, for loops are not faster then .each iterators. The performance must have to do with how the for loop variables are not loop scoped, as in each.

                                        "Your racing car is not faster than my Trabant, it just covers more ground in a shorter time than my car." 😄

                                        Heh? Oh. Yes, I see. 😳

                                        Would it be correct to say: An each loop can be as fast as a for loop if the loop variable has been initialized?

                                        Hi

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          That would mean it's not the each loop itself that's slow - but the creation of variables.

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                                          • J Offline
                                            Jim
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                                            Exactly.

                                            Hi

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