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      hemmick reef
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      OK Thanks

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        watkins
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        Dear Gaieus,

        Is what you wrote strictly true? Wasn't there a recent ruling on the re-sale of AutoCAD software which allowed the re-sale of old copies of AutoCAD? If I remember correctly, if you buy a copy of the software, presumably at the full price, then it is yours to use and to dispose of as you see fit. The idea that the software is yours, but only under licence, doesn't stand up in law. I might be wrong, but this is what I remember of the recent court ruling on the re-sale of copies of AutoCAD.

        Kind regards,
        Bob

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          @unknownuser said:

          "Unless Google has given you a specific written permission to do so, you may not assign (or grant a sub-license of) your rights to use the Software, grant a security interest in or over your rights to use the Software, or otherwise transfer any part of your rights to use the Software."

          See te very first paragraph of Reference 1 - USE OF THE PRODUCTS; CONTENT IN THE PRODUCTS.

          Also, some time ago there was already a question like this and a member of the SU Gang confirmed the above.

          Now it may be questionable whether it is right or not but that is the case. Also, imagine that I have a SU 6 license that I upgrade for $100 to SU 7 and sell SU 6 which the next owner can also upgrade to SU 7 for $100. πŸ˜’

          Gai...

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
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            Theoretically they would not be able to upgrade since Google should have that license number in the database as already having been upgraded.

            Digital license laws are very volatile, at least here in the US. Companies like to think that they can write whatever they want and the law will uphold it, but that is not often true. But then, who wants to put up the money to fight Google in court to find out?

            The idea is that if you buy a physical book, it is yours to resell after you have read it. Why should a copy of a computer program be different? Just because they said so?

            Now that being said, if Google has supposedly put limitation on reselling your software, and you resell it anyhow, just know that they could prosecute. Whether they win or not is another story, πŸ˜„

            Chris

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              @chris fullmer said:

              Theoretically they would not be able to upgrade since Google should have that license number in the database as already having been upgraded.

              True - I didn't think about it. πŸ˜„

              Gai...

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              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                Mike Lucey
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                Guys,

                If you read the Google Agreement you will note the following,

                Unless Google has given you a specific written permission to do so, you may not assign (or grant a sub-license of) your rights to use the Software, grant a security interest in or over your rights to use the Software, or otherwise transfer any part of your rights to use the Software

                I imagine Google SketchUp would have no objection to an existing SketchUp user that NO LONGER has a use for the product, pass / sell on his rights to a 3rd party. So in order to sell on a license its a question of obtaining PROPER WRITTEN PERMISSION from Google SketchUp.

                Mike

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
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                  Yes Mike, but I wonder how many people have been given that written permission. πŸ˜’

                  BTW I have two SU 7 licenses (by mistake). Will anyone buy one?
                  πŸ˜‰

                  Gai...

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                  • Rich O BrienR Online
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    They must have sent you my one by mistake.........can i have it back? 😠

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                      remus
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                      Bob, if i remember correctly that particular case was to do with the resale of unused copies of autocad so quite a different situation.

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                        watkins
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                        Dear Remus,

                        Nope, you are wrong! It took me a little while to find this, but here it is:

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                        (arstechnica.com)

                        If you have bought a copy of Sketchup at the full price (not a fixed term license), then I see no reason why you cannot sell it on as a used copy.

                        Regards,
                        Bob

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                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
                          Mike Lucey
                          last edited by

                          Bottom line .... so far, Judge: AutoCAD is sold, not licensed

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
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                            In this seems to be the current line of thinking, though I do not know how much it is being tested. Just because it is digital does not give a company the right to revoke your right to resell it if you bought it.

                            But there could be issues though if it is a preious copy that you had upgraded. Then it is really like the same item in many ways. So you might not win if you are reselling an old version of a software that you have upgraded and you still use the upgraded license. That seems like it might not hold up so well?

                            Chris

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                            • Mike LuceyM Offline
                              Mike Lucey
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                              What you say Chris makes perfect sense. The seller would have to be selling lock stock and barrel πŸ‘

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