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    • D Offline
      D0me
      last edited by

      Hi Gai

      This stand now is taking Shape.
      I've prepped for the front using the method you provided. I copied the back side covering to the front.
      All good to continue.

      Thanks


      Learning-Dome+Stand (Cylindrical By D0me).skp

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Okay, this is my time to leave now so sorry but will be back to the project later.
        πŸ˜‰

        Gai...

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Okay, back again with the next step. We are going to start to finalize this whole stand now.

          First we make sure that by modifying the front, we do not modify the rest of the side components. This can be done two ways;

          • right clicking and "Making unique" - but there is no much sense in doing this as we do not have any advantage of keeping it as a components at all
          • so we simply explode this front instance of the "side" component instead
            1.png
            Remember that we have overlapping geometry - the legs are repeated twice in each corner - so it is high time to delete the two from the ones that we have just exploded.
            (Also keep in mind for later that we still have overlapping legs in the back corners of the stand but we deal with them later).

          2.png
          I guess we do not need these three parts in the front (although I am not sure at this point because we have sort of modified stuff since you posted this preliminary design idea but to me, it seems just logical however tell if you have other ideas now)

          3.png
          I think it's also time to do a general clean-up and get rid of all the "loose" or "raw" geometry of our original stand box so triple click somewhere on it (all connected geometry will be selected) and delete all.
          (Note that after finishing at later steps, I noticed that there was still some loose geometry here and there - which was obviously not connected therefore not selected but can be deleted later as well).

          4.png
          Okay, I think it is also time to deal with that huge, concrete slab. We practically symbolised it with a 2D side panel so far but it finally needs to be 3D now. So let's pick one of the side panels (logically and modelling-technically the one from the exploded front side is the most practical) and make it unique so that when we edit it, the other three instances all around won't be edited at the same time. It would not be a problem (as later below you will see that we'll delete those) but more comfortable now.

          After making it unique, PushPull it to the end, snapping it ti the edge of the back panel.

          5.png
          Do the same with the sides - snapping them to the edges of both the right and the left side panel (only one side is shown in the picture but do it the same way on the other side).

          A tip here: the PushPull tool will "remember" the value of the last PsuhPull operation. Here it is not too difficult to snap to the geometry but you can test how it works: on the other side just double click on the side face of the concrete slab and it will PushPull exactly the same amount as on the first side.

          6.png
          Finally, as we do not need them any more, let's delete those side panels which has been "symbolizing" our concrete slab in 2D in the side components. By editing only one instance of the three side components and deleting it from there, all other instances will be deleted, too (this is why components are handy).
          We do not need them any more (unless you want to have them as some kind of "cover" on the concrete slab but then the make unique operatin should be done differently above - so tell if that is the case).

          7.png
          And finally the file as I have it now (note that I deleted some more loose geometry I found later and that I mentioned above).


          Learning-Dome-Jan-27.skp

          Gai...

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          • D Offline
            D0me
            last edited by

            Hi Gaieus

            I'm on track.
            I did make a small change. I pulled the concrete slab entirely over the legs and square bar.

            @unknownuser said:

            I guess we do not need these three parts in the front (although I am not sure at this point because we have sort of modified stuff since you posted this preliminary design idea but to me, it seems just logical however tell if you have other ideas now)

            Well there is 2 more addition to the front.

            1. is an extra piece of square bar 3 inches above the bar that is already there.
            2. I'm considering having a covering over the entire front that can be removed to allow me access to the inside. More like a roller shutter or door. What suggestions do you have?

            Thanks


            Learning-Dome+Stand (Cylindrical By D0me).skp

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Well, if we add an extra bar 3" above this is what we get. Is this what you want? (Also we will still need some kind of a bottom for the base box but that's easy to add any time)


              Extra bar.jpg

              Gai...

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              • D Offline
                D0me
                last edited by

                Hi Gai

                @unknownuser said:

                Is this what you want?

                Yes, that looks perfect and we'll definitely need a bottom for the box.

                Thanks
                Regards
                D0me

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  Well then, it is very easy - just Copy-Move (Ctrl + ) that bottom bar up (lock on the blue axis is either the UP or DOWN arrow key). It doesn't even need an image now I guess πŸ˜‰

                  I will put some easy things together for that bottom (my version does have that bottom already)

                  Gai...

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                  • ely862meE Offline
                    ely862me
                    last edited by

                    I thought u re building a plane here . πŸ˜†

                    Great lesson Boss!(u couldn t have done that without a diligent student like D0me)

                    All the best!

                    Elisei

                    Elisei (sketchupper)


                    Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                    • D Offline
                      D0me
                      last edited by

                      Hi Gai

                      @unknownuser said:

                      It doesn't even need an image now I guess πŸ˜‰

                      Definitely no need for that. You've made me a pro amongst all beginners now.

                      @ely862me said:

                      I thought u re building a plane here . πŸ˜†

                      Great lesson Boss!(u couldn t have done that without a diligent student like D0me)

                      All the best!

                      Elisei

                      I couldn't have done is without a concerned teacher like Gaieus. I've made so many mistakes along the way, but his patience kept me going.
                      Building a Plane, well that's next, right Gaieus? lol

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Building a plane in SU?

                        That's a piece of cake! πŸ˜’

                        [flash=600,480:23wug0ka]http://www.youtube.com/v/QO_D3ltOilk&hl=en_US&fs=1&[/flash:23wug0ka]

                        πŸ˜„

                        Gai...

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                        • ely862meE Offline
                          ely862me
                          last edited by

                          Wonderful...now,please,teach D0me do do it.
                          I think he can do it! πŸ˜›

                          Elisei

                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                          Come and See EliseiDesign

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            That's for the next semester.
                            πŸ˜„

                            Gai...

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                            • ely862meE Offline
                              ely862me
                              last edited by

                              U are very optimistic ... i would say..ahem..year? πŸ˜„ ..
                              Anyway i see him very receptive..he ll manage to learn sketchup sooner..or later .

                              Elisei

                              Elisei (sketchupper)


                              Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                              Come and See EliseiDesign

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                That wing modelling is actually not too complicated if you look at it that way. Justin (the guy who does that) doesn't even use plugins too much (but of course, his workflow is very special in many aspects).

                                The tools he uses there are simply PushPull and Scale.

                                Gai...

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                                • D Offline
                                  D0me
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Gaieus

                                  Currently, Chris is assisting me with further design options on the dome.
                                  He feels that there may be certain flaws in my design and we are currently working and rethinking the design as a whole. I would really like your input as well.

                                  Thanks

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi D0me,

                                    Yes, I have seen those posts. Whenever someone more knowledgeable in actual, practical implementation of such a project (remember, I am not an architect at all) comes up with any good idea how to modify the plan to be absolutely fool proof, we can do that.

                                    I read the hole on top, the bevel ideas and such (and I know where I would start with them just waiting for some final judgement)

                                    Gai...

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                                    • D Offline
                                      D0me
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks Gaieus

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                                      • D Offline
                                        D0me
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Guys

                                        It seems like such a long time since last posting here.
                                        Actually feels like something is missing from my daily routine.
                                        I trust all are well.

                                        I need some assistance.
                                        I need to calculate the surface area and volume of my dome as it stands right now.
                                        The reason for this is I need to know how much of cement I require to build this dome and the only way for me to know this is if I know the surface area of my dome. Also guys, don't forget to take into consideration the opening in my dome.

                                        Do you'll by any chance have a formula for this and can you'll assist me with doing the dome size as it is in this thread as an example so when I redo this whole exercise, I can follow the example.

                                        Thanks
                                        Regards
                                        D0me

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          Volume calculator by TIG?

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            I checked an earlier version of your dome - Volume ['by Integration'] ~= 0.227 cu.m [@~1% accuracy]
                                            that's the whole thing - both inner+outer [with entrance]...
                                            You can easily make a copy and group the parts you want - explode all together and then run 'Volume'...

                                            TIG

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