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    • Chris FullmerC Offline
      Chris Fullmer
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      The one that caught me for a while is if you add an edge, but it is part of a curve, and you are not adding the rest of the edges in the curve - that will splat.

      So exploding curves is necessary too.

      Chris

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        thomthom
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        @chris fullmer said:

        The one that caught me for a while is if you add an edge, but it is part of a curve, and you are not adding the rest of the edges in the curve - that will splat.

        So exploding curves is necessary too.

        Chris

        From what I understood of TIG, even exploding the curve and adding one segment will crash, as the edge is still connected to other edges on either side.
        Or did I misunderstand?

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        • TIGT Offline
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          @thomthom said:

          @chris fullmer said:

          The one that caught me for a while is if you add an edge, but it is part of a curve, and you are not adding the rest of the edges in the curve - that will splat.
          So exploding curves is necessary too.
          Chris

          From what I understood of TIG, even exploding the curve and adding one segment will crash, as the edge is still connected to other edges on either side.
          Or did I misunderstand?

          No - moving a loose Edge [that is neither part of a Curve or defining a Face] into a Group shouldn't splat... It's the splitting of thing that rely on each other that splats - an Edge might be connected to another Edge at it's end, BUT it shouldn't splat as each can survive without the other - A Curve or a Face need other things [Edges] to define them so moving them 'trans-entities' could be fatal ! πŸ˜›

          TIG

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            Gotcha!

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
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              And there is a feautre request submitted and I heard they are seriously thinking about trying to fix all of this for us.

              I often find it would be nice to move existing entities into existing groups.

              Chris

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @chris fullmer said:

                And there is a feautre request submitted and I heard they are seriously thinking about trying to fix all of this for us.

                I often find it would be nice to move existing entities into existing groups.

                Chris

                Feature request? Surely it's a bug report? They already added the API for it, with the arguments for add_group, but it's bugged.

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                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                  Chris Fullmer
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                  heh! you're right. I filed it as a bug report (with an ill-advised threat to to do bodily harm to whoever did not get it implemented).

                  Hopefully they fix it. It would be nice.

                  Chris

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
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                    Also, I think it is not as bad as you are pointing to TIG. If I add a face without its edges, it works just fine.

                    ---tested more and came back---

                    hmm, just adding a face that is bound by an edge that is part of a curve ALSO does not necessarily cause a splat like I had thought.

                    But I do know that in my faces to components script, I ran into problems and when I first exploded all curves in the model, I was able to overcome the splats.

                    But now I'm confused again as to what causes it. 😑

                    Chris

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      Sounds like it's one of them fun SmartBugs. Genetically manipulated to be invisible when you look directly at it.

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                      • TIGT Offline
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                        Chris

                        I have also tried it afresh - hadn't tried it recently as who needs bugsplats! I can't get it to splat either ❗ has something been fixed in v7.1[M1] and they're just not telling us ?

                        It didn't always splat before, BUT trans-entities selections seem to be a major contributor.
                        One thing it does do, which I sure it didn't used to, is if you draw a cube and select just the one face [no edges] and run the code below it groups the face and replicates its edges leaving the original edges behind but the face has been cut from the model: BUT if you erase one of the cube's faces and then select an adjacent face [again no edges] and run the code the face is cut from the model and so is its edge that had no other attachments, however, the common edges with the other faces are just replicated in the group and remain intact so their other faces are kept... I'm sure it never did that before !

                        group=Sketchup.active_model.active_entities.add_group(Sketchup.active_model.selection.to_a)

                        ❓

                        In passing I also noticed that running a group intensive script with the Outliner open doesn't seem to splat now ? Again I avoid it but did do it accidentally yesterday a couple of times and no splats... mysterious... πŸ˜•

                        TIG

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
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                          Yea - I miss a bug-fix list in the release notes.

                          Gotto test this with older SU versions though.

                          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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