Why not use plugins?
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I worked these few days with Paint dot Net, the SU of the 2d world, free and Simple. I hadn't realised that it had plug-ins at all, i just didn't question it, that's what i got and that's what i used.
I think this is the reason why most people, not businesses, don't use plug-ins is they just don't know or think that they exist, out of sight out of mind, most probably don't bother to take a look in the installation folder to notice there is a plugins folder.I think if Google advertised the existence of plugins, added a small tutorial to the ones that explain the basics when you first install SU, the users which would use them would at least double.
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I modelled for 3 yrs without using any plugins. Not serious work just playing about while in college. When I started getting better and posting some of my work at scifi meshes some of the other users who use SU pointed me here.
I was amazed by the range of plugins, by this time I was aquatinted with 3dsmax so knew about subdivision etc but to actually have it in SU was amazing. Haven't looked back since.
But everyone is right about google, they should include some of these plugins and more people would get involved. SU is thought of as a sub-standard package you wouldn't believe the bad press I get when I tell people I use it lol eg:%(#FF0000)[Buggy Virus | Fabled Legendary Member
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%(#00BF00)[liam887live | Member
To many peoples suprise I only use google Sketchup. Its a free software that anybody can use and you dont need a supercomputer to run it you should give it a spin. Ive got the pro version but the only difference is I can export to other file formats, all the actual toolsets and interfaces are exactly the same and there is nothing you cant model in the pro version you cant model in the free version.]Buggy Virus | Fabled Legendary Member
%(#FF0000)[Oh wait, these are sketch up models, I thought they were .3ds files.They are still good, I'm just not in as much awe as I was before.]
It goes on with many more examples.
I think google need to make more people aware of the plugins, after conversations ive had with people they see put off initially by SU imagining it to be the most inferior package you can get. I wonder what the story would be if @last still had it not an internet superpower.
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@unknownuser said:
Buggy Virus | Fabled Legendary Member
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liam887live | Member
To many peoples suprise I only use google Sketchup. Its a free software that anybody can use and you dont need a supercomputer to run it you should give it a spin. Ive got the pro version but the only difference is I can export to other file formats, all the actual toolsets and interfaces are exactly the same and there is nothing you cant model in the pro version you cant model in the free version.Buggy Virus | Fabled Legendary Member
Oh wait, these are sketch up models, I thought they were .3ds files.They are still good, I'm just not in as much awe as I was before.
This is weird, i usually get even more amazement after I say I made that with Sketchup not less.
If they think SU is so primitive why would they be less impressed with a good model and not more, it would mean it was harder to model, right?
Humans, who can understand them.
I usually get something like this "I love your work, you should move on to 3ds max or in the very least Blender".I agree that i should probably learn another application, but something complementing SU modeling, not switching to that completely. Why fix something that ain't broke?
@unknownuser said:
I wonder what the story would be if @last still had it not an internet superpower.
Probably a better product...for architects, but not free, and not used by so many as it is now. Besides who knows if it would have survived this crysis period. Su now is pretty well known and that drives sales, if you look at google trends for the word Sketchup you notice a significant increase from 2006 onwards.
Also here is the word Sketchup compared with the term 3ds max in google trends....."Fascinating!"
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@unknownuser said:
This is weird, i usually get even more amazement after I say I made that with Sketchup not less.
If they think SU is so primitive why would they be less impressed with a good model and not more, it would mean it was harder to model, right?
Humans, who can understand them.
I usually get something like this "I love your work, you should move on to 3ds max or in the very least Blender".Yeah I get that also but I was using it as an example of peoples feelings towards SU, sometimes they are very odd even among my 3D peers lol, this was an example!?!!? confusing yes.
@unknownuser said:
Probably a better product...for architects, but not free, and not used by so many as it is now. Besides who knows if it would have survived this crysis period. Su now is pretty well known and that drives sales, if you look at google trends for the word Sketchup you notice a significant increase from 2006 onwards.
Yeah didnt think about it like that you are prob right!
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Being a completely newbie to SU and a CAD user for 20+ years - I think I have the one word answer - productivity.
For those who are doing SU for money (I envy you), if you can complete it sooner, you will most likely have repeat clients.
As for the example of CAD - I started out using plain AutoCAD. And then I got involved in writing lisp routines which automated many things. We can certainly call them add-ons or plug-ins. This has been replaced by VB and now #net. And if we take this a step further, any vertical used (Architecture, Civil 3D, etc.) are also plug-ins in the sense that I can still accomplish the same output drawing in plain AutoCAD but oh my, I would hate to do that (try creating an asymmetrical vertical curve in plain AutoCAD - it CAN be done, but oh boy..).
And for the CAD Manager - any CM worth his salt will test the app in a closed or test environment - or at least I do.
I hope I'm still around another 20+ years so I can learn everything I can from this fascinating program called SketchUp. And I'll throw a plug in - I would love to be on the beta test team for SU. I have been on the beta team for Autodesk for the past 4 years as well as other apps. I have Technical Edited AutoCAD books, have co-authored an AutoCAD book and hope to be TE for an upcoming SU book.
This site is awesome - mainly because the participants in it. I learn so much every time I visit. You are my inspiration to reach higher heights with this program.
Rick
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@unknownuser said:
@rickgraham said:
hope to be TE for an upcoming SU book.
RickSounds interesting..... is it top secret?
Yeah, can't say anything further - sorry.
Rick
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