Model this???
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Good idea Pete...you know you can count me in. I LOVE to model!
Here's an idea. We have a "Model This" challenge, but exclude texturing all together. All models are presented with hidden geometry on and no rendering, albeit perhaps a clay render. The community chooses the best model based on cleanliness vs. poly count and the winning model is then offered up for download and submitted as the next "Render This" challenge.
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Adam, that sounds like a great idea.
I was waiting for 100 yes votes then asking y'all what types of models should be requested, I did not want to jump into organics just yet and also wanted to not make it too dificult initially as alienating noobs is not my intention, but rather encouraging them to try. Failure is a big part of learning IMO.
So what shall we model?, something that folks will enjoy, something that folks could use and something that will interest most users.
ideas?
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Should the models be of exactly the same object? For example rather that picking a screwdriver and getting different variations, the challenge would be -
Model this.....
Then everyone would be playing the same tune?
As Jean would say 'Just Ideas'
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Rich, that's pretty much the idea, a picture of an object is posted and we all try model it by 'eyeballing' the dimensions, so without getting too technical with exact dimensions we will try and model the exact same item.
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I like the idea of it being "useful" (does that mean by posting you agree to let people freely use your scene?)
But I'd prefer it to be more "conceptual", otherwise everyone's models will look the same, won't they?
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a bicycle of some sorts might be a good start..
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And the modeler who makes the best model will post a tutorial about how to do it?
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@chris_at_twilight said:
I like the idea of it being "useful" (does that mean by posting you agree to let people freely use your scene?)
But I'd prefer it to be more "conceptual", otherwise everyone's models will look the same, won't they?
fwiw chris,
remus runs a competition here in which a general topic is given and it's up to you to decide what to draw.. (albeit within a certain time limit)
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I like the idea of a set, specific object being created; on the same page, as was mentioned. Otherwise, you say "make a screwdriver," and you have 20 different items from a standard slotted screwdriver to a powered portable driver. I don't think the objects should be totally simple, but should allow people to try to push their boundaries a bit in modeling and texturing.
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@unknownuser said:
a bicycle of some sorts might be a good start..
seems like a variety of methods could be used depending on skill level and amount of detail you'd like to go for.good timing Jeff, the current sketchup 3d challenge is a bycicle... (http://sketchup3dchallenge.blogspot.com/)
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haha.
i never saw that site before..
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yeah.. I started doing the 3d challenge back in June.. that time i don't even know how to make boat hulls
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@unknownuser said:
@chris_at_twilight said:
I like the idea of it being "useful" (does that mean by posting you agree to let people freely use your scene?)
But I'd prefer it to be more "conceptual", otherwise everyone's models will look the same, won't they?
fwiw chris,
remus runs a competition here in which a general topic is given and it's up to you to decide what to draw.. (albeit within a certain time limit)
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewforum.php?f=291Good point!
I have seen those just recently. I retract my objection 
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i think something not too specific would expose us to more techniques and styles. say model a hand tool, a power tool, a bicycle, a kitchen appliance, a piece of furniture ... and if we try to keep it more towards architectural/decor things we should get a lot more useful models out of the deal.
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@xrok1 said:
i think something not too specific would expose us to more techniques and styles.
I would agree, and If it is too complex a model, I probably won't be able to participate, mostly because of time constraints (unless it's broken into components, ie this challenge is a bicycle wheel, next one is the seat etc)
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I'm in the same position Dale is in, I cannot participate in the challenges that have a pretty extensive amount of modeling due to time constraints. I love the idea of smaller objects that will create a challenge. I really could use some challenges to help me with my modeling skills. Truth be told I'm not that great of a modeler
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Good points. Ditto the last 2 posts.
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Would others consider/agree that the general consensus seems to be.......
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No texturing
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Hidden Geometry 'On'
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Clay Render [Optional]
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Useful Models but not complex [due to time constraints/User ability]
Does this sound reasonable? I'm just trying to summarize the overall mood of the responses so far and in no way coerce the discussion away from those that think it should be more challenging and concept orientated.
Maybe Beginner/Intermediate/Advanced Challenges that would neatly tie into 'Render This' Challenge? Or is this too confusing?
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I think texturing can be optional, it does IMO add to the overall model as well as being an integral part of the whole SU experience.
I believe that one can show model as you feel, be it rendered, clay, SU output, but as well as a line enabled view too.
Useful would be nice, however in some cases the challenge may be more based on creating a certain shape which may not always be useful, then again are we calling useful for archvis, gaming or hobbyist?
I do understand that they should not be to complexed and time consuming, however some may well be, depending on ones ability to find a solution I guess, and if one is using a ruby or straight vanilla SU (there can be many hours saved with ruby)
I do not believe we should categorise it in experience levels, regardless of ones skill level the model may be more challenging to less experienced users or easier, depending on the approach, the good thing is it's all a learning process and what is not known in the beginning will have a clear solution in the end.
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