A ruby for a text list of materials for OSX users wanted
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@frv said:
Its important that that the list is interactive with the geometry.
What you mean by this? "interactive with the geometry"?
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ok, so this is new to me..
osx colorpicker can have plugins..
here's a couple of screenshots from some that i've installed..HexColorPicker (self explanatory .. also note the additional choices i now have..next to the crayons etc)
Mondrianum (same thing as this recent scf post except you do the browsing directly in your material dialogue! even browse coverflow style if you want)
now, for some reason, sketchup is actually denying access to one of the standard options (Color Palettes) which is where the list view is possible.. in it's place is 'SketchUpColorPicker' which uses the brick icon.. google could definitely make their picker as it's own thing but then it would be system wide and work in every app.. maybe they don't want that but jeez, can't they replace a different choice like 'image palette' because we could still sample colors off an image opened in preview if needed..
so really, what's the best way to bring this to google's attention? gaieus, don't you have some sort of secret handshake with these guys or something?
otherwise, at the original post, i don't think a SU ruby solution is the best way to go.. getting a simple list view with collections etc should be very easy to write by someone that's already familiar with the colorpicker.. find them and ask for a little plugin:D
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You can make plugins for the colour picked on OSX? does that also work on 10.4? What language is used to write these?
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@thomthom said:
You can make plugins for the colour picked on OSX? does that also work on 10.4? What language is used to write these?
ha, i don't have a clue about the language but yeah, it works on tiger & jaguar too..
here's a bit of info:
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/DrawColor/Tasks/AddingColorPickers.html -
Hi Jeff,
tx for your info on the colorpicker. It seems a solution is near.I also saw this that might help to solve this problem.
http://www.tangerine.net.au/With interactive colorpicker I just meant that you have to be able to use the list for asigning materials.
Actually I am not very interested in color or texture images in the rb or plugin or even colorpicker. Just the names and the use of them in the workflow of asigning and checking assigments of materials. I don't need images with the materials as I do not need them for layers either. I want to see white 01 and white 02 for example. If you can see images of the materials all the better of course but I have no need for it, neither have others I think when modeling.
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@frv said:
I don't need images with the materials as I do not need them for layers either. I want to see white 01 and white 02 for example. If you can see images of the materials all the better of course but I have no need for it, neither have others I think when modeling.
i think with all the other stuff i've been typing here, i'm not getting this part across.. exactly what you want is already standard in the osx color picker.. it's just that sketchup disables it..
making this type of list is possible in every app except for sketchup:
somewhere along the lines, someone at @last or google made a conscious decision to disable this while in sketchup.. that mistake needs rectified asap.
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@unknownuser said:
i think with all the other stuff i've been typing here, i'm not getting this part across
@unknownuser said:
somewhere along the lines, someone at @last or google made a conscious decision to disable this while in sketchup.. that mistake needs rectified asap.
That's the thing - he's looking for another solution until Google addresses this.
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@frv said:
With interactive colorpicker I just meant that you have to be able to use the list for asigning materials.
You're thinking of some other method other than clicking the item and it will activate the Paint Bucket?
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Jeff, you are exactly right.
Also Thomthom you are right as well. As long as this issue is not solved by Google a plugin with some kind of functionality as the material panel has but then with named materials would be great.Google will not address this issue since I have been asking them for years now. Google addresses issues for beginners, not for the advanced users.
I am waiting for some Chinese or American of whatver group of people who are looking at Google's work lately and come up with the idea to develop SketchCAD. A crossover from Sketchup to Revit. A kind of Sketchup with tools for for the busy modeller in architecture. @LAst had a vision were modelling would be done in such a way that you can actually see what is happening real time. In Vectorworks and Revit and I assume in most other modelers you are still in wireframe mode and have to update a perspective view to see a little of what is going on. You do not have to be Steve Jobs to see the market for SketchCAD.
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I for one wants a listview with material preview on PC - so I see a need on both platforms given the status quo.
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I thought a sorted list with names was already in SU on PC's ?
Anyhow, Your plugins are great as I use them already, hope you can sort it out for us all
TX in advanceFrancois
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@frv said:
I thought a sorted list with names was already in SU on PC's ?
Anyhow, Your plugins are great as I use them already, hope you can sort it out for us all
TX in advanceFrancois
Yes - but only in pure text. A little colour indication next to the name would help greatly to locate the right name in a long list.
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Is thee any way to get into contact with the people who nowadays "maintain" Google Sketchup. I don't think much development is still going on but I assume there are still a few guys sort of keeping Sketchup going for OS's pdates . If I knew how to reach the Google Sketchup maintance guy or girl I would let her or him texture my models for a week under OSX.
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@frv said:
Is thee any way to get into contact with the people who nowadays "maintain" Google Sketchup. I don't think much development is still going on but I assume there are still a few guys sort of keeping Sketchup going for OS's pdates .
You have noticed SU 7.0 nad 7.1, right? They did a great deal of work to make it work faster. It is in very much active development.
The Bugs and Feature section of this forum is often read by the developers and support team. You will see their replies in there to some of it.
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I will post a link to the bug section as well to this thread.
I have looked at MXMreporter again and it does actually almost gets the job done. For exporting to Maxwell you really need this rb. With MXM reporter Maxwel v2 works rather well.
A great ruby as MXMreporter is it would need a little fashion makeover to work well with SU for most users. The window is too big and could be slimmed down in a more SU style.
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I posted at http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23769&p=202493#p202493 because I don't normally read this forum much. Workaround uses "defaults write com.google.sketchuppro7 NSInitialToolTipDelay" and some number, but please read the whole post. I'll read some of this and see if I like any of the solutions listed.
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frv - we still work on SketchUp, but we (a) consider ourselves the illiterati, and can't read or write well, (b) have no interest in texturizing your models for you because we're sure we'd do it in some fashion that would not make you happy, and (c) are totally lacking in any sense of humor or any understanding of sarcasm, which leads people to think we're suffering from Alzheimer's (see http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gs7pisYOVSybMpOXqK3CaW7KoXgA).
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haha
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@unknownuser said:
...now, for some reason, sketchup is actually denying access to one of the standard options (Color Palettes) which is where the list view is possible.. in it's place is 'SketchUpColorPicker' which uses the brick icon.. google could definitely make their picker as it's own thing but then it would be system wide and work in every app.. maybe they don't want that but jeez, can't they replace a different choice like 'image palette' because we could still sample colors off an image opened in preview if needed..
so i see one problem google might be up against here.. they actually have to make sure their ColorPicker won't work system wide because of all the .skm files which will crash everything except sketchup..
whatever though, this stuff is so easy and fast to fix (well, at least from the perspective of a non-programmer such as myself ) -
Yea, that's the issue. We're using something that's close, but not quite, and so we have to worry about how we do this. I don't think it's easy, and you have to worry about fitting in on the platform - most of Apple's palettes don't have text, either. So how does speeding up the tool tips work for you as a workaround for now?
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