[Plugin] Extrude Edges by Rails

boofredlay

I installed v2.3 but still only see the single EEbR button toolbar.
SU7, PC XP.

TIG

I installed v2.3 but still only see the single EEbR button toolbar.

Have you downloaded all of the separate EEby.. rubies [..Edges,..Lathe,..Rails and ..Vector] from the other threads ?
You must have those in the Plugins folder too for their buttons to get made...
Also remember that their various lingvo and png files etc that come with each ruby need to go in the TIGtools folder in Plugins...

boofredlay

Ah, I understand. I have not downloaded the others. Thanks.

JClements

TIG:

Any chance you could ZIP all of the related scripts which use your toolbar, together in one file?

cmoreink

Thank you TIG

driven

Hi TIG,

the fifth button comes and goes depending on the last saved state,

if I turn Extrusion Toolbar off before quitting SU when I turn it back on it stays as 4 buttons for that session, any number of drawings.

if I don't turn it off before quitting SU it reappears with a 5th button.

not a big deal, but really hard to figure out when working on hi-poly drawings that I turn on and off all the time to let SU have a rest.

Only just now found some time to put my finger on a pattern and test the theory.

that's why it went away with the fresh instal and stayed away until I shut down for dinner, reappeared when I turned back on and has been subconsciously driving me nuts for the last 4 hours, even though it's not effecting anything else...

It may just be my machine, so if any other Mac user with all 4 installed wants to quit SU with it (the toolbar) open and see if they get an extra button on restart, and let me know, I'd be grateful.

john

pilou

@unknownuser said:

Any chance you could ZIP all of the related scripts which use your toolbar, together in one file?

Take a look here

cmoreink

Hi TIG, good news and bad news:
good news: downloaded EEbE, EEbV and EEbL all work great and as you can see at screen shots I also have a nice toolbar with all icons
bad news: downloaded EEbR and it does not work
please look at the screen shots and tell me if I'm doing something wrong (I hope it's me) or is there a conflict?
So I drew my 1st curve (not welded, not a group, it has 12 segments and it's as a one), I drew my 2nd and 3rd, click EEbR, selected 1st curve (profile, melding), selected 2nd curve (1st rail), selected 3rd curve (2nd rail), selected melding curve (1st curve, profile) and I got nothing. Only few "crosses) at each segment... what to do?
[EDIT]
so I decided to give one more try by selecting EEbR from Plugins menu instead of clicking on icon. When I click on Plugins menu and select EEbR from a pulldown menu I get nothing, I mean nothing, 0, it does not ask at the bottom of the screen to select the Profile Curve, etc. so I believe that there is a conflict somewhere...

after drawing 3 curves I click on EEbR icon and select my 1st curve (profile, melding)

2nd curve (1st rail) selected

3rd curve (2nd rail) selected

TIG

@cmoreink said:

Hi TIG, good news and bad news:
good news: downloaded EEbE, EEbV and EEbL all work great and as you can see at screen shots I also have a nice toolbar with all icons
bad news: downloaded EEbR and it does not work
please look at the screen shots and tell me if I'm doing something wrong (I hope it's me) or is there a conflict?
So I drew my 1st curve (not welded, not a group, it has 12 segments and it's as a one), I drew my 2nd and 3rd, click EEbR, selected 1st curve (profile, melding), selected 2nd curve (1st rail), selected 3rd curve (2nd rail), selected melding curve (1st curve, profile) and I got nothing. Only few "crosses) at each segment... what to do?
[EDIT]
so I decided to give one more try by selecting EEbR from Plugins menu instead of clicking on icon. When I click on Plugins menu and select EEbR from a pulldown menu I get nothing, I mean nothing, 0, it does not ask at the bottom of the screen to select the Profile Curve, etc. so I believe that there is a conflict somewhere...

The menu glitch was fixed by the last update for all EEby.. tools - so get the latest update - that'll fix that menu problem.
I can't reproduce your problem...
I've draw a reproduction of your curves as far as I can tell, and even tried reversing the curves' ends' pick order etc in several permutations
Note that the melding-profile can be another curve or the first-picked profile curve: just as the rail-2 could also be rail-1 - but you can also just make a copy of a profile/rail the the other end of the rail/profile and pick that instead as the melding-profile or rail-2...
Sometimes [rarely] SUp's database gets muddled with some curve's info and this can cause EEbyR meshes to twist or fail etc [very rarely without making anything at all] BUT there are several fixes for this:
e.g. you can try...

Copying the profile curve [Move+Ctrl] to the other end of rail-1 and picking that as the melding-profile instead.
Picking the profiles/rails in reverse order, or swapped order - if the mesh is 'upside-down' then reverse faces later.
Erasing and remaking one of the curves.
Ditto - but if it's an arc reverse the direction of picking the arc's ends.
Selecting one of the curves and exploding it, then immediately welding the still highlighted lines back into a curve.
Selecting one of the curves and Edit>Cut it to the clipboard, and then Edit>Paste_in_Place.
Repeating the explode or cut/paste operations for each/all profiles/rails.
Selecting one of the curves and grouping it, then selecting the group and exploding it back into place.
Similarly - selecting one of the curves and grouping it, copying [Move+Ctrl] the group, erasing the original group and curve, moving the copy into place and then exploding it.

These approaches are quick to do and one should fix such problems, which occur only very rarely... I have never yet had a set of curves that won't mesh appropriately... even if you have to bash them around a bit sometimes

Hope this helps - if not PM me with a copy of the problem SKP and I'll look at it...

cmoreink

I have tried all that and nothing. Once I get home from work I'll PM you with SKP file and maybe we can resolve the issue.

TIG

@cmoreink said:

I have tried all that and nothing. Once I get home from work I'll PM you with SKP file and maybe we can resolve the issue.

No problem - we will fix it...

jeff hammond

@driven said:

It may just be my machine, so if any other Mac user with all 4 installed wants to quit SU with it (the toolbar) open and see if they get an extra button on restart, and let me know, I'd be grateful.

tried it a couple of times and no 5th button..

pilou

@unknownuser said:

and no 5th button..

??? the are only 4

Works fine for me

TIG

@unknownuser said:

Works fine for me

Me too. Tried every combo of arc direction etc and no problems... The only thing we don't know is his 'scale' - perhaps it's tiny ?
Wait till his PM SKP arrives...
EDIT: I just tried it with 3 curves <1mm long and it either made a partial mesh or made no mesh at all - It's to do with the size that SUp can make a face - a bit like FollowMe use over very small arcs - it can do the really small triangular faces... So that is one possibility - let's see what the actual problem SKP is like...

jeff hammond

@unknownuser said:

@unknownuser said:

and no 5th button..

??? the are only 4

right

i was replying to driven who said he was getting a 5th(blank) button.

pilou

Oh sorry

TIG

cmoreink

I got your SKP via PM.
I tried it and it works fine for me - here's the file back...
I assume you are using SUp v6 [from the the SKP version] - it might be a SUp version related problem BUT I don't see how.
The SKP was purgeable of several unused things but it worked fine for me before that anyway.
The SKP had 'no problems to fix' in Model Info.
Working with it through all of the combos I did highlight a couple of minor picking glitches that I'll fix in a future release - however these weren't related to your problem.

So to recap - I pick the nearest long rail, then the short profile that joins the rails then the other farther away long rail and then the profile again... The mesh is made perfectly...

If you copy the profile to the other ends of the rails so all of th four curves touch at their ends - and then pick this copy as the 'melding-profile' at the end, can you get a mesh to form then ? FFbR[TIGd].png FFbR[TIGd].skp

TIG

Here's v2.4 - 20100123 Minor glitch in picking order of curves resolved. FR lingvo file updated by Pilou.
http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=201286#p201286

cmoreink

I give up, it's a no go
I also installed EEbR v2.4 but no show

driven

@cmoreink said:

I give up, it's a no go
I also installed EEbR v2.4 but no show

Hi, one ? and one suggestion

have you installed the full new combo set, if not do that first

so that makes this the second suggestion, download TIGs demo skp (on top of one of these threads) and try out all his curves. If you use step back rather then delete, you get a fresh set of rails each try.

good luck