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    • R Offline
      Rudbeckia
      last edited by

      yikes......vue is expensive, whats the learning curve on vue

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      • Alan FraserA Offline
        Alan Fraser
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        The learnng curve for Vue depends on how expert and precise you want to get. Like any major piece of software there are all kinds of advanced volumetric lighting and procedural textural settings you can play with...but the basic program is drag and drop; and it comes with a mass of lighting presets to cover just about any exterior setting. It's perfectly possible to produce a decent render in an hour or so, but will take months to master completely.

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        • EarthMoverE Offline
          EarthMover
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          What type of plants are you trying to render...2D (faceme) or 3D?

          3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
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          • soloS Offline
            solo
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            As Alan says, it depends on what you want to achieve.
            Straight out of the box you can create a decent scene and pretty good render, however to reach the pinnacle of what Vue has to offer takes time and a pretty steep learning curve.
            The good thing about it is it's fun.

            Why not start with the PLE version (best to learn with as opposed to the free pioneer version that's very limited)
            And if and when you hit a snag post on forum and I'll be around to help where I can as well as many other Vue users here.

            http://www.solos-art.com

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              Rudbeckia
              last edited by

              thank so much all for the help

              Whats the PLE version?

              As to the question about 3d versus 2d plants, which are the best to use for rendering?

              I assumed 2d b/c so many of the 3d plants in SU dont look realistic at all

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              • EarthMoverE Offline
                EarthMover
                last edited by

                Quality 3D plants will always render better because they cast shadows onto themselves and better emulate the lighting that exists in the rest of the scene. If however, you are a landscaper designer like myself, there are not nearly enough 3D plants to supplement the thousands of plants befitting of my particular zone. I tend to use a lot of 2D plants, but will typically try and edit the color levels and exposure of each plant to try and get a more natural and uniform look.

                With 2D plants, most require some alpha information to cut them out. For renders that support alpha transparency without additional maps, you have -

                Podium
                Twilight
                Vue
                Vray (for Max...not for SU)
                Hypershot
                LightUp (if I'm not mistaken)

                If I were in your shoes and wanted inexpensive quality with support for alpha transparency and both biased and unbiased results....I'd go with Twilight.

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                • FrederikF Offline
                  Frederik
                  last edited by

                  Wonder why nobody have mentioned Kerkythea... ๐Ÿ˜•
                  It's free and at the KT Forum you can download some nice and free Xfrog 3D tree libraries...
                  Using the instancing brush in KT is really easy... ๐Ÿ˜„
                  My best advice to you will be to read the Getting started tutorial and watch some of the tutorial videos available... ๐Ÿ˜‰


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                  Cheers
                  Kim Frederik

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                  • R Offline
                    Rudbeckia
                    last edited by

                    thanks for the info

                    I will try Kekythea too

                    is it bad for a lap top to spend hours rendering something?

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                      remus
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                      Depends what rendering engine your using and how much time youve got until you need to hand over the images ๐Ÿ˜›

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                        Rudbeckia
                        last edited by

                        @remus said:

                        Depends what rendering engine your using and how much time youve got until you need to hand over the images ๐Ÿ˜›

                        okay so my computer wont like blow up or anything ๐Ÿ˜„

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                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Nah, it will give you the blue screen of death first.

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                            Ecuadorian
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                            If it's a Dell, it might really explode.

                            http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32550
                            http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives//005359.html
                            http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_fire.html

                            Just joking; it's not only Dell laptops which can explode. The problem is in the batteries. Some other manufacturers have experienced similar problems, even Apple:
                            http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/macbook_inferno_an_apple_macbook_battery_catches_fire.php
                            http://altatecgt.com/blog/2006/09/08/macbook-se-une-al-club-de-las-quemaditas/
                            http://www.nowhereelse.fr/macbook-explosion-16747/
                            http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/disaster-on-the-homefront-macbook-pro-battery-explosion-no-images/
                            http://www.appledefects.com/?p=259

                            Just to be on the safe side, why not assemble a desktop PC for rendering? And please, don't put your "laptop" on your lap.

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                              Rudbeckia
                              last edited by

                              @ecuadorian said:

                              If it's a Dell, it might really explode.

                              http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32550
                              http://blogs.smh.com.au/mashup/archives//005359.html
                              http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/08/dell_fire.html

                              Just joking; it's not only Dell laptops which can explode. The problem is in the batteries. Some other manufacturers have experienced similar problems, even Apple:
                              http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/macbook_inferno_an_apple_macbook_battery_catches_fire.php
                              http://altatecgt.com/blog/2006/09/08/macbook-se-une-al-club-de-las-quemaditas/
                              http://www.nowhereelse.fr/macbook-explosion-16747/
                              http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/06/27/disaster-on-the-homefront-macbook-pro-battery-explosion-no-images/
                              http://www.appledefects.com/?p=259

                              Just to be on the safe side, why not assemble a desktop PC for rendering? And please, don't put your "laptop" on your lap.

                              its not a dell its an HP and it runs fabulously compared to the dell i had, are those all linke to computers exploding?? dont want to see that i may be scared to render then!!

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