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    • dermotcollD Offline
      dermotcoll
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      When I saw some of the images I just had a crack at it - couldnt believe it when it came out and it wsnt black - where do you guys get all the fabulous materials and how do you store them (what format)

      When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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        EarthMover
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        Dermot and Tallguy, nice job rendering, although you are lacking any visible sub surface scattering. The idea behind the thread was to display your favorite render engines ability to perform a SSS (subsurface scatter), which is namely the scattering of light below the surface of a material. Light will usually either pass through an object completely (transparency), pass through and bend (refraction), bounce off (reflection), or absorb (sub surface scattering). SSS is dependent upon the physical density of an object and it physical rate of light absorption. Things in the physical world that exhibit this behavior are wax, soap, skin, milk, plastic, etc. If you notice in all of Solo's renders, you can vaguely see where the light has passed through the outer cube and shown a hint of the sphere within.

        It looks like you guys are using Twilight. Try using a SSS template with your materials and use spot lights or emitter lights instead of the physical sky. This will give a concentrated light source which the render engine can use to glean enough direct light bounces to perform the SSS.

        Here's a quick test with Fryrender....emitter within SSS.


        SSS_Test_Fry_01.jpg

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          Ecuadorian
          last edited by

          Next time you ignore kitty, the dog will pay.


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            tallbridgeguy
            last edited by

            THanks obviously I am way off track here. I will try to figure out the SSS system using kerkythea.

            Thanks for pointing it out to me. I'm still not sure how to do it but I will try and figure out.

            Oh well sorry to clog the thread.

            s

            Nielsen
            http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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              bytor
              last edited by

              Cherry (flake car paint inside of) Coke - Twilight @ Easy 8 setting


              cherry-coke.jpg

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              • EarthMoverE Offline
                EarthMover
                last edited by

                @tallbridgeguy said:

                Oh well sorry to clog the thread.

                s

                No worries...all in good fun and a method for learning and comparison. Keep on trying and you'll get there before you know it. Wish I could help more with Kerky settings for SSS. Perhaps Miguel could lead you in the right direction.

                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                  Ecuadorian
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                  Sure, I posted some settings here:
                  http://twilightrender.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=356&p=2350

                  Actually, a lot of materials present Sub-Surface Scattering. Just put a strong light behind a slab of marble, a plastic toy, or a china plate. The human body has SSS, too; wax candles, paper, even wood has it. It's just that most of the time it's not that noticeable under normal lighting.

                  I made two 30-minute renders with Twilight, one with Easy 09 (aka MLT or Metropolis Light Transport) and another with Easy 10 (aka Bidirectional MLT). These popular render methods are also available in Indigo and other unbiased render plug-ins. Spot the differences between MLT and Bi-MLT:

                  MLT:
                  SSS-Easy09.jpg

                  Bi-directional MLT:
                  SSS-Easy10.jpg

                  Here's the file so you can check the settings used:
                  sss cat.zip

                  Pete, I believe SSS looks much more spectacular on a dragon statue or something similar. Do you have one around? 💚

                  -Miguel Lescano
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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    Pete, I believe SSS looks more spectacular on a dragon statue or something similar. Do you have one around?

                    I actually do, in fact I have a few. But the problem is they are only one material, and the SSS effect is only dynamic with a light behind technique, this way you can have two materials giving more options for SSS and not only the light trick. I wanted to have the option of having another material behind a SSS one, like veins under skin.

                    http://www.solos-art.com

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                      xrok1
                      last edited by

                      hey guys, that would make an awesome preview object for Twilight's material editor!

                      nice job guys but i think that last one is the cats meow!

                      “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                        Ecuadorian
                        last edited by

                        I think Remus (Indigo), Brodie (Maxwell) and Pete (Vue) have shown the best SSS examples here.

                        -Miguel Lescano
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                          boofredlay
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                          Twilight


                          sss04.jpg

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                            Ecuadorian
                            last edited by

                            Another try with Twilight's Bi-directional MLT, this time using the plexiglass template for the outer shell.
                            SSS-Easy10-plexiglass.jpg

                            EDIT: A stacked version of all three previous Twilight Renders (MLT, Bi-MLT and Bi-MLT with Plexiglass) with some post-pro in the cat's eyes.
                            Stacked.jpg

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                              tallbridgeguy
                              last edited by

                              cool stuff

                              Nielsen
                              http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                tallbridgeguy
                                last edited by

                                still cool!

                                Nielsen
                                http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                  tallbridgeguy
                                  last edited by

                                  Pretty cool Dermot! I thought you were sitting this one out.....(its pretty fun stuff)

                                  Nielsen
                                  http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                    tallbridgeguy
                                    last edited by

                                    I am using Kerkythea and I downloaded a number of their great material libraries. Since you have twlight I'm sure you have access to tons of materials on their forum.

                                    s

                                    Nielsen
                                    http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                      tallbridgeguy
                                      last edited by

                                      I looked on the kerkythea forum and found some more info on SSS. (actually today was the first time I ever heard of sss.)

                                      s

                                      Nielsen
                                      http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                        dacad
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                                        Ecuadorian

                                        If i'm not mistaken the BPT is better suited for interiors, other way there's no much diference between btp and MLT. You should try the two in a interior room with lighs coming from the windows with real glass just with sun to see the big diferences.

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                                          tallbridgeguy
                                          last edited by

                                          Is this kinda sss?

                                          thanks!


                                          white2.jpg

                                          Nielsen
                                          http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                                            EarthMover
                                            last edited by

                                            Torus Knot emitter, inside of ice, inside of honey. FryRender - 15% Isotropic Scattering with 85% Dielectric Transmittance.


                                            SSS_Test_Fry_02.jpg


                                            SSS_Test_Fry_03.jpg

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                                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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