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    bytor
    last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 02:02

    Cherry (flake car paint inside of) Coke - Twilight @ Easy 8 setting


    cherry-coke.jpg

    Find the Cost of Freedom.....

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      EarthMover
      last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 02:10

      @tallbridgeguy said:

      Oh well sorry to clog the thread.

      s

      No worries...all in good fun and a method for learning and comparison. Keep on trying and you'll get there before you know it. Wish I could help more with Kerky settings for SSS. Perhaps Miguel could lead you in the right direction.

      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
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        Ecuadorian
        last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 02:52

        Sure, I posted some settings here:
        http://twilightrender.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=356&p=2350

        Actually, a lot of materials present Sub-Surface Scattering. Just put a strong light behind a slab of marble, a plastic toy, or a china plate. The human body has SSS, too; wax candles, paper, even wood has it. It's just that most of the time it's not that noticeable under normal lighting.

        I made two 30-minute renders with Twilight, one with Easy 09 (aka MLT or Metropolis Light Transport) and another with Easy 10 (aka Bidirectional MLT). These popular render methods are also available in Indigo and other unbiased render plug-ins. Spot the differences between MLT and Bi-MLT:

        MLT:
        SSS-Easy09.jpg

        Bi-directional MLT:
        SSS-Easy10.jpg

        Here's the file so you can check the settings used:
        sss cat.zip

        Pete, I believe SSS looks much more spectacular on a dragon statue or something similar. Do you have one around? 💚

        -Miguel Lescano
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          solo
          last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 02:52

          @unknownuser said:

          Pete, I believe SSS looks more spectacular on a dragon statue or something similar. Do you have one around?

          I actually do, in fact I have a few. But the problem is they are only one material, and the SSS effect is only dynamic with a light behind technique, this way you can have two materials giving more options for SSS and not only the light trick. I wanted to have the option of having another material behind a SSS one, like veins under skin.

          http://www.solos-art.com

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            xrok1
            last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 04:39

            hey guys, that would make an awesome preview object for Twilight's material editor!

            nice job guys but i think that last one is the cats meow!

            “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

            http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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              Ecuadorian
              last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 05:46

              I think Remus (Indigo), Brodie (Maxwell) and Pete (Vue) have shown the best SSS examples here.

              -Miguel Lescano
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                boofredlay
                last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:21

                Twilight


                sss04.jpg

                http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                  Ecuadorian
                  last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:29

                  Another try with Twilight's Bi-directional MLT, this time using the plexiglass template for the outer shell.
                  SSS-Easy10-plexiglass.jpg

                  EDIT: A stacked version of all three previous Twilight Renders (MLT, Bi-MLT and Bi-MLT with Plexiglass) with some post-pro in the cat's eyes.
                  Stacked.jpg

                  -Miguel Lescano
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                    tallbridgeguy
                    last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:46

                    cool stuff

                    Nielsen
                    http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                      tallbridgeguy
                      last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:47

                      still cool!

                      Nielsen
                      http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                        tallbridgeguy
                        last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:49

                        Pretty cool Dermot! I thought you were sitting this one out.....(its pretty fun stuff)

                        Nielsen
                        http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                          tallbridgeguy
                          last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:50

                          I am using Kerkythea and I downloaded a number of their great material libraries. Since you have twlight I'm sure you have access to tons of materials on their forum.

                          s

                          Nielsen
                          http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                            tallbridgeguy
                            last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 11:52

                            I looked on the kerkythea forum and found some more info on SSS. (actually today was the first time I ever heard of sss.)

                            s

                            Nielsen
                            http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                              dacad
                              last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 12:15

                              Ecuadorian

                              If i'm not mistaken the BPT is better suited for interiors, other way there's no much diference between btp and MLT. You should try the two in a interior room with lighs coming from the windows with real glass just with sun to see the big diferences.

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                                tallbridgeguy
                                last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 13:13

                                Is this kinda sss?

                                thanks!


                                white2.jpg

                                Nielsen
                                http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                  EarthMover
                                  last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 13:34

                                  Torus Knot emitter, inside of ice, inside of honey. FryRender - 15% Isotropic Scattering with 85% Dielectric Transmittance.


                                  SSS_Test_Fry_02.jpg


                                  SSS_Test_Fry_03.jpg

                                  3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                  Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                  Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                    EarthMover
                                    last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 13:43

                                    TBG - It is to a degree, although it appears to be more of a frosted glass. With SSS you'd expect to see less light absorbed into the thicker areas (i.e. the corners of the cube) and more light absorbed into the thinner areas (those closest to the sphere). In your render you can see the light passing through the thick areas too uniformly to be a true rendition of what SSS would look like. The dark areas in your render appear to be more shadow casting than that of light block through physical density. Keep trying though...you're getting closer.

                                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                    Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                      tallbridgeguy
                                      last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 13:49

                                      Thanks for the help! It is an interesting subject and I appreciate the feedback. I have to say it is a difficult subject.

                                      s

                                      Nielsen
                                      http://www.tallbridgeguy.com/

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                                        olishea
                                        last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 14:08

                                        frosted glass and a shiny ball! my god sss takes long time to render! this ones not exactly sss but looks pretty cool!

                                        earthmover: those look sweet! could be ornamental lights!


                                        x.jpg

                                        oli

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                                          david_h
                                          last edited by 11 Nov 2009, 15:09

                                          here's one. . .no idea what I am doing. Just clicking a lot of buttons and hoping for the best. 😲


                                          Box andBall.jpg

                                          If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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