[Plugin] 2D Tools
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@jwhils said:
I just recently upgraded to SU 2013 Pro (on Mac OSX 10.8.4- MBPro retina) and I cannot get the 2D fillet tool to work on either the fillet or chamfer settings. I set the radius value & click line 1 (highlights in blue) then click line 2 and nothing happens. If I choose 2 non-connected lines the operation joins them together at 90 degrees. Am I missing a setting?
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There are no known issues with v2013... Works fine for me...Are you pressing <enter> after you input the values ?
That's a common mistake...Assuming you do...
Try using it with the Ruby Console open... any error messages ?Next step... do you have plugins like Vray beta and some of the newer BI tools loading?
They are know to have issues with 'observers' causing issues...Try disabling them and retrying...
Assuming there is still no fix... can you post the problem SKP and give explicit instructions on the steps you take to get 'nil' result...
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I had a Ruby Console error for one loft tool which I moved out of the plug-in folder. I do not have Vray beta but I do have a number of plug-ins loaded. What are BI tools specifically? When I try to use the fillet tool I am entering a fillet radius value before selecting my lines (I did discover earlier that hitting return zero'd out the value). Not hitting enter, I can select line 1 highlighting in blue and it asks for line 2 but nothing happens & no Ruby Console error is showing. I will pull all the plug-ins out of the folder except 2D tools and see what happens. What is SKP? Sorry.... new to the lingo here.
Update-- I pulled all my plugins out-- reloaded 2D tools alone using the install SketchUcation plug-in loader--All other tools are working-- fillet/chamfer still not working. Now I am seeing the "pick tool" arrow for selecting the lines, before I got a [ or something that looked like }? Sort of a straight vertical bar icon.
I input 24" radius on 84-96" lines (not hitting return/enter) then select line 1 (highlights in blue) hover to line 2, click, and nothing. No Ruby Console errors are showing.
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TIG- I tried a quick reply but I don't think that posted?
Anyway-- I did have a Ruby Console error for another plugin showing. I do not have VRay. What are BI programs?
I moved ALL my plugins out of the plug-in folder in Sketchup 2013 (user>library) to a temp folder on my desktop. Re-installed just the SketchUcation loader plug-in and then re-installed the 2D Tools. Only the native SU plugins, SketchUcation and 2D tools are there. When I tried using the fillet tool I now get the pick tool "arrow" for selecting which I did not have before. I enter a radius value (not hitting return/enter), I can select Line 1 and it highlights blue. I hover to "Line 2", click and nothing still. Same thing happens with the chamfer-- not result.
All the other tools in 2D tools seem to work fine. Any ideas?
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A SKP is the file type for SketchUp.
2dFillet Tool:
When you type a value for the arc's radius you must then press <enter> for it to be recognized [same as the native tools].
A 'plain number' is taken to be 'current units' e.g. 2.54 if modeling in cm or just 1 if modeling in inches, or suffix the number with say 1" to 25.4mm to use those units instead.
If you want to change the number of segments in the arc use 's' as the suffix [just like with native arcs/circles/etc] 6s, 12s etc.If you do not press <enter> after typing the numbers then you haven't passed any data to the tool...
The last used radius/segmentation is remembered during that session.
Incidentally, what is this "other tool's error message" you are not sharing with us ?
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TIG-
When enter a value for the radius and hit return it goes back to 0"- every time. I've tried entering the value in a variety points. The default always comes up as 0" as well. If I do not hit enter, the value remains but still nothing happens. Since I pulled all the plug-ins, I recall the Ruby error was related to the clf_simpleloft tool. I'll need to drop them back in to see the error. Right now I have no errors. I'm going to uninstall SU2013 and see if re-installing does anything. Are there any plug-ins that I should have installed with 2D tools? Like I said I yanked them all out to isolate 2D tools. Literally-- I have no file per se-- I'm drawing 2 lines and trying to fillet them.
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Look at the Plugins folder and see how you have permissions set. Do you have the set so all users can read and write?
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Permissions are good on the plugins folder and the 2D tools folder inside the plugins folder. I changed everything to read & write for user/guest/everyone just to be sure. Still not working. Do I need a plugin to help operate the VCB toolbar input values? Again- when I hit enter it zero out's both an inch value or NNs value.
I've changed templates from feet/inches to millimeters & then meters.... each template zero out's the fillet radius when I hit return. Can still choose Line 1 (highlight) nothing happens clicking line 2.
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My experience with this plugin in is that you have enter values / make selections several times to get them to take....things like selecting segments, enter values, etc.....does not appear to work reliably on my system.
I will leave it at that.
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Templates have nothing to do with it and there aren't any plugins to add to make the VCB work. The plugin works correctly for me on my Mac. I tried it again a few minutes ago to be sure. Perhaps there's an installation error of the plugin or another plugin conflicting.
I have never had any of the problems vojo reports either with my Mac or with my PCs.
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Well, it would be useful if it worked. I've tried endlessly and don't know what else to do. I though a clean re-install of SU2013 and 2Dtools would work. thanks for your time. Perhaps it's a OSX issue
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I don't know what to tell you. The plugin works as advertised and does exactly what it is supposed to do on all three computers that I use it on.
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Hi TIG,
I submitted a couple of suggestions (earlier) regarding the font and color selection options. It just dawned on me that I should have asked if this is beyond Ruby's capability?
Bob
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It would require a complicated webdialog - it's not impossible... just very complicated.
See Thomthom's 3dText tool - where he manages to find available fonts on PC & MAC and build the list...
Color picking is probably a tad easier...I have many other fish to fry before I even think about this
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I see
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TIG-
Here's an update-- it may be relevant for you or not
SU2013 placed the measurement input box within the top toolbar (Mac OSX version). I thought I'd see if I could move it back to the bottom right where I was use to seeing it. Indeed I could. So.... why not try the fillet tool again? After inputing the radius value 4 straight times-- the measurement finally stuck. Now, when I tried to pick the lines, I too had to keep selecting them a few times before the tool worked, but it did eventually.
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jwhils...welcome to the party
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@jwhils said:
TIG-
Here's an update-- it may be relevant for you or not
SU2013 placed the measurement input box within the top toolbar (Mac OSX version). I thought I'd see if I could move it back to the bottom right where I was use to seeing it. Indeed I could. So.... why not try the fillet tool again? After inputing the radius value 4 straight times-- the measurement finally stuck. Now, when I tried to pick the lines, I too had to keep selecting them a few times before the tool worked, but it did eventually.
Your report is of course of interest.
However, it is lacking in detail.
Was the Ruby Console open during this test?
If so did it display any messages?
You 'inputted' the value...
Was this input after the tool was activated, but before you picked the first edge?
What was that value?
Did it have a units suffix?
Did you press <enter> afterwards?
What do you think was different about the time the value 'stuck'?
Did you do something different?
When picking the edges...
The first edge is usually easily picked [it must have course be in the current active-entities and not inside a group or component [unless you are editing that]]
The second picked edge's line must intersect with that of the first picked one, if it does no a fillet cannot be made.As a simple test please do this...
Draw a rectangle.
Delete its face in empty space, leaving its four edges.
We now have a set of four coplanar edges where any two that you might pick [that are not 'parallel'] will 'intersect'.
Activate the Fillet tool.
Type 1" + <enter>
Pick any of the potentially intersecting edges and they should fillet with a 1" radius arc.
The edges trim to suit.
Repeat with a 2" fillet on the same edges... and see the arc change, leaving the previous fillet 'where it was' now disconnected...Can you post a simple example of some edges you are trying to fillet?
There is no difference with PC or MAC and this Fillet tool has been used by thousands without issue...
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@vojo said:
jwhils...welcome to the party
OK, so 31 posts and about 80% of them criticize the use, result or function of a plugin.
whilst criticism is needed to help develop a tool there is also criticism that is just unneeded and unhelpful to plugin authors
i'd recommend providing positive criticism which helps point out a shortcoming or report a bug etc...
the 'this plugin is not certified by Ted' is really not helping anyone in the community
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TIG-- this is my last report on the subject and I will outline my precise actions for you.
In your instructions above you indicate an instruction to type 1" + <return>.
What I've discovered is that if I activate the fillet tool-- per your exact rectangle instructions above--- and I use the cursor to highlight the default 0" value shown in the radius dialogue THEN delete or type 1" + <return> the value goes back to 0" and the tool does not work and this would be the method I was trying previously.
If I activate the fillet tool and type the value 1" + <return> directly (without highlighting with the cursor) the 1" value holds and I can click and select Line 1, but selecting Line 2 takes several tries before it works (like 3 or 4). I also get an input line-based cursor this method, not my default arrow. This is a method I had tried previously. I then did the operation again, only this time I typed 1" + <return>, then 1" + <return> a second time, then select Line 1, then I could select Line 2 immediately and the tool worked. I verified this on 3 straight operations.
If I activate the fillet tool and type 1 + <return> (did not type " after the 1 per your instruction) the value holds as 1", I can select line 1 & 2 and the tool works perfectly every time. I have not had it fail on 5 straight operations. Cursor arrow remains as well.
Ruby console was open the entire time on all attempts with no error showing up in the window at any point.
Sorry if I missed something along the way, but this is how the tool is operating for me. I hope some frustration for others may be avoided in the future. Thanks for all the work you've done. I use a couple of your plugins they are very useful. I now know how to use this tool on my system whether or not this is the way it should work. I'm just glad I now know.
Cheers-
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I think the issue is that you were not simply typing in the fillet value, but you were activating the tool then immediately selecting the 'Measurement' window by clicking in it before typing, this removes the focus from the main screen, thus stopping the value being passed properly to the tool.
BUT if you just activate the tool and immediately type the required value it'll appear in the Measurement box anyway, there is no need to 'activate' that dialog - indeed doing so messes up the focus... It's just like when you draw a Linewith the native tool, you activate the tool, pick the start, start the direction and type in the length desired... No need to pick in other boxes etcAs I also explained before - as with native tools - when you type in a number without a units suffix it is always assumed to be in the current model units [Model Info].
If you are working in inches [irrespective of whether or not the suffix is 'showing'] then typing a plain 1 OR 1" is the same - you get 'one inch'.
BUT if you want to input in units other than the current model units you can add the appropriate suffix - e.g. working in inches but typing 25mm will make length of almost an inch, but exactly twenty-five millimeters long.Also, as with the native arc/circle tools, suffixing a typed in integer with an 's' changes the segmentation - so 6s = six segments, 24s = twenty-four segments etc...
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