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    • micioneM Offline
      micione
      last edited by

      I'm looking for what may have been affected.
      I attach the file.
      thanks


      200mm.skp

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      • TIGT Online
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        As you can see the 200mm radius fillet worked fine.
        Are you picking near the ends of the lines [but not on the vertices]?
        Do you have a list of your installed plugins?


        Capture.PNG

        TIG

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        • micioneM Offline
          micione
          last edited by

          I enclose a list of installed plugins.
          He has also stopped working "Follow me rotate". (from wikii)
          thanks


          PlugIn.zip

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          • micioneM Offline
            micione
            last edited by

            I uninstalled the plugin Fredo's "Additionalplugin folder".
            There was a conflict.
            Now run "Instant roof", by Chuck valiArchitects and "FollowMe and Rotate" by
            Wikii.
            I downloaded and reinstalled "2D Tools" but the problem with "fillet" is still present.

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            • L Offline
              lapx
              last edited by

              Can 2d tools work for any plane? It would be nice if one could lock the 2d tools to any plane.Is this what surface tools tries to do? You should be able to lock your plane to draw in 2d on any surface. Then any drawing would be on the surface as 2d. i know it works on in the xy plane.
              It would be handy if it worked on surface of any set plane.

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              • TIGT Online
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                @lapx said:

                Can 2d tools work for any plane? It would be nice if one could lock the 2d tools to any plane.Is this what surface tools tries to do? You should be able to lock your plane to draw in 2d on any surface. Then any drawing would be on the surface as 2d. i know it works on in the xy plane.
                It would be handy if it worked on surface of any set plane.
                Some tools do work in any plane [e.g. Fillet].
                You can reset the z-height for many other 2dTools.
                Fredo's 'Tools on Surface' will also draw most basic shapes on any surface too...
                With the advent of LayOut further development of 2dTools is unlikely...

                TIG

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                • micioneM Offline
                  micione
                  last edited by

                  I found the plugin that creates a conflict with 2D Tools / fillet: it is "Driving Dimension" by LEDAS.
                  Now everything works fine.
                  Thank you.
                  Roberto

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                  • TIGT Online
                    TIG Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @micione said:

                    I found the plugin that creates a conflict with 2D Tools / fillet: it is "Driving Dimension" by LEDAS.
                    Now everything works fine.
                    Thank you.
                    Roberto
                    Sorry I didn't spot the ldd.rbs in the list. It is one of the tools implicated in a lot of clashes with legit tools because I suspect that it ill-advisedly changes some base class/methods for groups. I have previously written to the author asking them to fix it.
                    Note that some other similarly implicated scripts include SketchyPhysics, Matchbox, SunTools[?] etc

                    TIG

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                    • micioneM Offline
                      micione
                      last edited by

                      TIG,
                      thanks again.
                      Maybe we should create a "black list" of all the scripts that create conflict.
                      And make it visible on the forum.
                      I also write to LEDAS for this problem.
                      I must warn FREDO6, that his tool "additionalplugin foder" creates
                      conflict with other plugins? (For example with "instant roof" and FollowMe rotate ")
                      regards,
                      Roberto

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                      • micioneM Offline
                        micione
                        last edited by

                        TIG,
                        sorry but I can not send and receive private messages by using
                        the user control panel.
                        What should I do to activate this feature?
                        my username: micione
                        my email: robertopadulazzi @ alice.it
                        My real name: Roberto

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                        • TIGT Online
                          TIG Moderator
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                          If you click on thisCapture.PNG and then this1.PNG you should get a new blank post, fill it in with title, text.attachments and recipients...
                          If you click on the PM icon below a post's author's details/avatar2.PNG, it will open a new post, with the same title and the recipient filled in3.PNG
                          What is your difficulty precisely ?

                          TIG

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                          • micioneM Offline
                            micione
                            last edited by

                            TIG,
                            I found the problem.
                            This is Google Chrome / instant translator of the page.
                            By disabling this feature, it seems all right.
                            Thank you.
                            Roberto

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                            • micioneM Offline
                              micione
                              last edited by

                              TIG,
                              I talked to "LEDAS" the problem of "driving dimension" that creates conflicts
                              with other plugins (specifically with 2D Tools).
                              I responded thus:

                              Ilya Tatarnikov 2012-05-11 05:58 UTC
                              Hello Roberto,

                              We confirm the problem and trying to investigate reasons and find solution.
                              For more efficient work I'm recommending you to contact also to 2Dtools development team.
                              They maybe got such request earlier and find some solution.

                              --
                              best regards,
                              Ilya Tatarnikov

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                              • TIGT Online
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                It is not just my tools... but several tools made by others, that use legitimate Sketchup API class/methods [usually about 'groups'] that ought to 'return' certain values, but which LEDAS's tool overwrite ill-advisedly, thereby breaking several legit tools to enable his own !
                                I have tried to circumvent several standard 'group' methods to avoid clashes like this [SketchyPhysics and others also do similar screw ups!], but there is a limit to what I can do. If LEDAS's code was not compiled it would be easy to find the issues, I have PM'd him about this ages ago, but I think he is just being obdurate, because his code works, 'so screw everyone else...'
                                😒

                                TIG

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  @micione said:

                                  For more efficient work I'm recommending you to contact also to 2Dtools development team.
                                  They maybe got such request earlier and find some solution.

                                  Bah! Humbug!
                                  Overriding the base classes in SketchUp is a big no-no. Leaving it to others is just extra bad manners!

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    Registrationware as well - don't like it when I have to give out my full details just to try a software...

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      This subject of the problems Sketchy Physics, Driving Dimensions and others cause comes up frequently. The authors have been approached more than once with requests to fix them but have never done so. It would appear to me that they have no interest in doing so. Perhaps there should be a sticky listing these plugins that are written so they cause plugins that are properly written to fail. A comment could be included to the effect of, "Understand that if you choose to use these plugins, they may cause other plugins to fail. Use these plugins at your own risk."

                                      Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        I've been looking into LDD - When it's installed pretty much all the base classes is flooded with LDD methods. Even the root Object!!

                                        Object.ancestors [Object, LDD, Kernel]

                                        An LDD module is added to the Object class.

                                        And just the constants that LDD adds:
                                        LDD.constants ["SKETCH_TOOL", "PI", "GENERAL_CASE_LINES", "LDDEntitiesObserver", "EQUAL_LINES", "PUTS_IN_RUBY_CONSOLE", "CONSTRAINTS_LIMIT", "ENTITY_OBSERVERS", "LDDFaceFaceAngleConstraint", "LDDOptions", "LDD_return_values", "SKETCHUP_VERSION", "LDDVertexVertexDistanceConstraint", "ROTATE_TOOL", "Driving_Dimension", "LDD_constraints_types", "LDDVertexFaceDistanceConstraint", "CAMERA_ZOOM_TOOL", "ARC_TOOL", "LDDModelConstraints", "LDD_constraints_typesVersion_0_2", "Driving_Dimensions_Tool", "LDDFaceInformationForInferredConstraints", "LDDAppObserver", "LDDEdgeEdgeDistanceConstraint", "LDDLabelsObserverForVertex", "LEDAS_DRIVING_DIMENSIONS_BUILD", "INTERSECTING_LINES", "LDDFixationConstraint", "LDDEdgeFaceAngleConstraint", "CAMERA_ORBIT_TOOL", "DRIVING_DIMENSIONS_FIXATION_TOOL_CURSOR", "VERTEX_OBSERVERS", "LDDEdgeLengthConstraint", "LDDModelObserver", "RECTANGLE_TOOL", "LDDPreConstraint", "FULL_LOG", "LDDDrDiTextObserver", "LDDSet", "LDDEmptyConstraint", "DRIVING_DIMENSIONS_CALCULATING_CURSOR", "LDDEdgeEdgePlanarAngleConstraint", "PUSH_PULL_TOOL", "PARALLEL_LINES", "LDDDrDiEntityObserver", "LDDFaceFaceDistanceConstraint", "LDDToolsObserver", "LDD_PRO", "LDDVertexEdgeDistanceConstraint", "MOVE_TOOL", "LEDAS_DRIVING_DIMENSIONS_VERSION", "LDD_DIR", "LDDDataForSketchupModel", "LDDSelectionObserver", "DEG_SIGN", "LDDConstraint", "LDDEdgeFaceDistanceConstraint", "CAMERA_DOLLY_TOOL", "DRIVING_DIMENSIONS_TOOL_CURSOR", "LDDArcCurveRadiusConstraint", "CIRCLE_TOOL", "INTERSECTING_LINES_WITH_COMMON_FACE", "LDDDrDiGroupObserver", "LDDEdgeEdgeAngleConstraint", "LDDObserversHash", "LDDKEY", "OFFSET_TOOL", "Driving_Dimensions_Fixation_Tool"]

                                        Notice that even a PI constant is added - so now it's available to all classes instead of Math::PI. What a mess...

                                        LDD really do not play nicely with the shared SketchUp plugin environment at all! 😡 😡

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • C Offline
                                          chickbiker
                                          last edited by

                                          TIG - how does one go about acquiring a copy of your 2D tools? Looks like just the fix I need. Assuming it works with the free version... http://forums.sketchucation.com/posting.php?mode=reply&f=323&t=22091#

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                                          • mitcorbM Offline
                                            mitcorb
                                            last edited by

                                            Look at the bottom of the first page of 2D tools thread. At the bottom, see the Attachments box. The plugin is in a zip folder. Right click, save file as.. and place it in your favorite destination folder on your computer. Then unzip it to your Sketchup Plugins Folder.

                                            I don't know why you inserted that link to a Reply panel. At the bottom left of the Reading Window is a Reply button.

                                            I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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