sketchucation logo sketchucation
    • Login
    πŸ€‘ SketchPlus 1.3 | 44 Tools for $15 until June 20th Buy Now

    Sketchup Scene with layor 0 visible

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Newbie Forum
    sketchup
    17 Posts 3 Posters 758 Views 3 Watching
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • D Offline
      Dundee
      last edited by

      In Sketchup, I created a layer with dimensions. To be able to insert in layout, I added a scene with this layer in Sketchup.

      However, every time, I look at this scene, the layor 0 is always added automatically and it is hiding my information.

      I would like to hide layor 0 from this scene, Can I have help?

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Hi there (again) and welcome!

        Could you first of all post your model (or a simplified example)?

        As for hiding a layer in a scene, you have to choose another one as "active" (you can never hide an active layer). It means that you check another layer's round radio button on the left in the Layer manager as well as now you can uncheck the square checkbox on the right.

        But I am pretty sure this issue has some more elegant solution so that example model would be better.

        Gai...

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • D Offline
          Dundee
          last edited by

          I am new to forum discussions. I hope the file loaded is ok


          Table de chevet Thomas.skp

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • D Offline
            Dundee
            last edited by

            When I made my new scene, I made it active and made layer 0 invisible.Everything was fine,

            However, when I switched to a scene where layer 0 was active and I came back to the new scene I saved where layor 0 was not visible, layor 0 reapeared and is now visible.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Yes, it's attached fine.

              Now what exactly is the problem? If I send the file to LayOut, it opens and shows the model just fine with the dimensions. Of course, you need to select the proper scene (scene 6 in your model) in the tray > SketchUp model on the right.


              LayOutScene.png

              Gai...

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                If you make changes in your scenes, make sure to update them every time (often you need to update all). Right click on the scene tab and the "Update" item is there, in the context menu.

                BTW if you wish, you can also join the French usergroup in your User Control Panel.

                Gai...

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • D Offline
                  Dundee
                  last edited by

                  When I make an animation with all the scenes, my last scene saved initially with layor 0 not visible will now appear with layer 0 visible. The layer 0 will hide some details.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    See this attached file with your Layer 0 disabled in scene 6 (the last one)


                    Table de chevet Thomas.skp

                    Gai...

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • D Offline
                      Dundee
                      last edited by

                      Hit scene 1 and come back to scene 6. Layer 0 as become once more visible. The animation will nw have my scene 6 with layor o visible.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        You are right. I didn't double check. Nice catch - I am immediately going to report a bug about it.
                        πŸ˜‰

                        OK, back to a solution: as Layer 0 is always a "special" layer, don't use it for hiding things ever. Instead, whatever you want to hide in certain scenes, put on another layer (make one for those). Otherwise follow these rules very strictly:

                        • never model anything on any other layer (active) than Layer 0
                        • leave always all "loose" geometry (that is not grouped or inside a component) on Layer 0
                        • "move" items on other layers only after grouping them (or when you made a component of them) and only move the groups/component on other layers (the "loose" geometry inside will still remain on Layer 0)
                        • don't even use other layers as active layer then Layer 0 unless you are already very experienced with SU otherwise you will end up with a mess.

                        Gai...

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • D Offline
                          Dundee
                          last edited by

                          Could this plug in help me? I found it on your site.

                          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20949

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            That's a very cool plugin indeed (and extends the functionality of layers) but the "rules" I posted above still apply. Best is to keep yourself to them to avoid any further confusion.

                            Gai...

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • D Offline
                              Dundee
                              last edited by

                              Can you have a scene 3 only with the drawer and its dimension? and still have the first two scenes similar to the ones in the file?


                              Table de chevet Thomas rev1.skp

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                1. I have added an "Extra layer" (also called this way)
                                2. grouped the "rest" of the model for easier manipulation
                                3. placed it on this "Extra layer"
                                4. turned off this "Extra layer" (now it remains turned off, unlike Layer 0)
                                5. Zoomed to extents so that your drawer now fills the screen (to me at least, in a 4:3 aspect ratio window))
                                6. updated Scene 3

                                Update: I modified the model (placement of the dimensions) so that now both dimensions can be seen from this viewpoint (re-download the model)


                                Table de chevet Thomas rev1.skp

                                Gai...

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • D Offline
                                  Dundee
                                  last edited by

                                  The information you gave me is very interesting and it solved my problem!

                                  You were very cool and had a lot of knowledge. Thanks again for your help and patience. I will be able in the next few days to send all my sketchup info to layout and built my paper presentation.

                                  Youpi!!!

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    I know you have used layers excessively and of course my "solution" was only to demonstrate what way it can be done (I couldn1t really look into your layering method very close but obviously it should be done entirely according to your logic).

                                    LayOut is a very good application but of course, as it is fairly new, there are still a couple of tools missing but I am sure that the development of it will eventually make it very powerful.

                                    BTW beside the French forum I suggested above), there is also a Woodworking forum you can only access if you subscribe. I think you would be interested in the discussions "down there" and there are a couple of really active members there who use SU and LO excessively so you could learn a lot from them.

                                    Gai...

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • M Offline
                                      MartinRinehart
                                      last edited by

                                      @dundee said:

                                      The information you gave me is very interesting and it solved my problem!

                                      This is very good. There are other things.

                                      First, visit Window/Model Info (often!). Click File to see how big your model is. Click Statistics, then "Purge Unused". Back to File and you'll see that your model is 75% smaller. This is a good thing.

                                      I tried my VisMap plugin to get an idea of what was going on in your original .skp. It showed a blank window where the VisMap should have been. On digging, I found that your .skp had some odd internal damage. Your "rev1" .skp had no such problem and VisMapped without trouble.

                                      Internal damage was a common problem for me as I learned to SketchUp. How to avoid it? 1) Never make a mistake and never change your mind as you model. OK?

                                      Now on to practical advice that a human being might follow. 2) Build sub-assemblies in separate files. (Small collections of geometry are seldom broken.) If you think it through in advance, you'll be able to File/Import and click the Origin inference, to correctly assemble the finished model. (File/Import automatically makes the import a component, same name as the file name).

                                      And make your sub-assemblies just as you would do the cabinet making. That way you'll have a good magazine article, as well as a model.

                                      Author, Edges to Rubies - The Complete SketchUp Tutorial at http://www.MartinRinehart.com/models/tutorial.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • 1 / 1
                                      • First post
                                        Last post
                                      Buy SketchPlus
                                      Buy SUbD
                                      Buy WrapR
                                      Buy eBook
                                      Buy Modelur
                                      Buy Vertex Tools
                                      Buy SketchCuisine
                                      Buy FormFonts

                                      Advertisement