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    • B Offline
      BTM
      last edited by

      Pete's way can work with specifically unsoftened areas too; just do it inside the group, and when the edges are selected, hit undo 😄

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
        last edited by

        +1 for BTM

        but I still posted the little ruby here:

        http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20274

        Chris

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        • JClementsJ Offline
          JClements
          last edited by

          Thanks, Chris!

          When the script is needed (although it may not be often) it will be greatly appreciated ... usually after doing deformations + plus mulitiple intersections, odd shapes, etc., which seems like its always at the end of the day, near a deadline, and you don't time and are impatient 😄 )

          It worked pretty well on this one (which is a result of a projection) but not quite. Anyway it will work I think for a majority of cases 👍 . Thanks again for sharing.

          John

          P.S. At least keep it alive in your archives.


          Perimeter (outer) Edges only 2.skp

          John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
            last edited by

            Wow John, how can you work like that? Where's your axis? That model was very weird to try and orient with the axis off and no prior knowledge of what should be up or down.

            anyhow, I turned on the axis and I was able to figure it out 😄

            As for the script not working right, that is actually because the model is a little off. Its not perfectly flat.

            EDIT: Not that a model has to be flat for my plugin to work. But in this case, there are overlaps that apear to be flat, which are not flat. So the plugin selects edges that don't look like outer edges, but in fact are since they are not flat with the faces that are overlapping them.

            Chris

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Seems that is a 2D view of a 3D work 😉

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              • JClementsJ Offline
                JClements
                last edited by

                Chris, I only turned of the axis so they wouldn't show when I exported a jpg 😄

                John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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                • mitcorbM Offline
                  mitcorb
                  last edited by

                  this starts to suggest selection of loops, maybe creation of loops, maybe loop subdivide on volumetric models, not just planar objects.
                  never mind-- just a tangential rambling

                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                  • Chris FullmerC Offline
                    Chris Fullmer
                    last edited by

                    @mitcorb said:

                    this starts to suggest selection of loops, maybe creation of loops, maybe loop subdivide on volumetric models, not just planar objects.
                    never mind-- just a tangential rambling

                    Doesn't Thom have some selection toys that work with loops? Thom, I've looked at your script, but I've forgotten which it is and what exactly it does. Want to step in and enlighten us?

                    Chris

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                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                      Chris Fullmer
                      last edited by

                      Well, here's his selection tools plugin:

                      http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=14975&p=114380&hilit=%5BPlugin%5D#p114380

                      It does have select loop. Its not something I've gotten the hang of in other modelers, so I'd have a hard time implementing it. But check out Thom's, looks like it should work for loops!

                      Chris

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                      • mitcorbM Offline
                        mitcorb
                        last edited by

                        I don't think he has loop selection of edges--only faces at this time. I might be wrong. He may have updated it. What I am suggesting is already a native tool in Blender and a few other solid modelers.
                        Selecting a loop of edges could become problematic unless you had options to select at the bifurcations of a heavy triangulated model. Of course, Zorro would make short work of it unless that would be too heavy handed--in some cases a dispassionate slasher.
                        mitcorb

                        I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                        • thomthomT Offline
                          thomthom
                          last edited by

                          Edge Loop, could anyone post a screenshot of what that means? A "Loop" can be interpreted as many things.

                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          • R Offline
                            remus
                            last edited by

                            Here you go.


                            edge loop.JPG

                            http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              The thing about these kind of selections, how do you expect them to work on irregular shaped objects? How do they work in other applications?

                              If it assumes that the shape is made out of triangles or quads things are very easy.

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                See TopMod 😉 (free)
                                Have cool loops selection 😉
                                And it's a crazzy prog 😎 (here old version)
                                topmod.jpg

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • mitcorbM Offline
                                  mitcorb
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, Remus and Pilou:
                                  That is what would be called edge loop selection.
                                  Now, what if the volume were made up of only triangle faces? or a combination of both quads and triangles(either hard or soft edges)
                                  You would want to select the shortest edge loop around the volume, or the longest loop around the volume, or some specific path. You could then duplicate the path in order to subdivide, or do a follow me with an added figure, or an array copy--or whatever.

                                  I take the slow, deliberate approach in my aimless wandering.

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                                  • N Offline
                                    notareal
                                    last edited by

                                    Here is a good explanation of edge loop.
                                    http://wiki.cgsociety.org/index.php/Edge_Loop
                                    Edge loop terminates if there 3 or 5 (or more junctions), so for a mesh build with only triangle faces there is no edge loop.

                                    Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks. That helps alot. Such a function is easy to add.

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      In a stricter sense an edge loop is defined as set of edges where the loop follows the middle edge in every 'four way junction'

                                      I'll add that shortly to my Selection Toys plugin.

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        Only thing is, from the screenshot in that article, I don't think the quad faces are planar. So in SU there'd be a hidden/soft edge across. I could make the script ignore hidden/soft edges, as an option perhaps.

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                          notareal
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          I don't think the quad faces are planar.

                                          That's possible. So option to ignore soft/hidden faces would good.

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            But how many model in SU in such a manner? With only quad faces? With hard edges (with or without soft edges that splits the quad.)

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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