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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      Grow by TIG makes maybe not that you want but another thing ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Seems you can make something also with Protrude by Jim Foltz


      protrude.jpg

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • M Offline
        museummaker
        last edited by

        Thank you for the tips.

        I have been experiementing and quite get the perfect results.

        It is helpful and faster than doing it by hand but still end up tweaking things.

        I will continue to explore what these great rubys can do. Always things to learn. ๐Ÿค“

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
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          Grow makes the trick but you must add another plug for align drop objects! Align by Didier Bur
          After the Scale
          x = 0.8
          y = 0.8
          z = 0.8
          because the Z Spacing don't accept a coefficient but just a value in cm ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

          Maybe Tig can make something ๐Ÿ˜‰
          Another plug must be created "Drop" on an existing object
          Seems Didier Bur has a drop inside Spray tool but... ๐Ÿ˜’

          ๐Ÿ˜ฎalign.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            Try changing the order of operations - scale then move then rotate, move then scale then rotate etc... This will produce differing results

            TIG

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              How change order as all is in the same dialog box???
              Sorry but seems impossible or I miss something for the Duh thread ๐Ÿ˜ณ

              Seems that the Zspacing accepting a % will be very cool?

              I have the 1.0 20070207

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                There is a separate dialog at the end asking for 'order of operations'...

                The latest version of 'Grow' is now available for download here http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?p=324331#p324331

                TIG

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Indeed that is a big Duhduh ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ ๐Ÿ˜ณ
                  I had a very old version! ๐Ÿ˜†
                  So I must learn your new opus โ˜€

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    Ok that works like a charm ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                    except that we must find first the "Growth point"!!!
                    the "bottom point base" of the troncated crossing edges top Pyramid! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                    Maybe this can be automatic because in this case its' easy to find it but in case of complex form?
                    Or biggest volume?

                    Mr TIG it's your turn ๐Ÿ˜„


                    inthe fog.jpg


                    grow.skp

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • utilerU Offline
                      utiler
                      last edited by

                      Gee, I'm glad i stumbled on this; I like Pilou had an old version....TIG, is this only relatively new? I just went to http://www.crai.archi.fr/RubyLibraryDepot/Ruby/em_edi_page.htm and the old one still downloads.....

                      TIG, Have you produced a instructions sheet with this latest version? I am having trouble executing what i want to do. I seem to be confused as the the 'X' and 'Y' planes....
                      I assume 'X' is red direction; left and right,
                      'Y' is green direction; up and down the screen,
                      and
                      'Z' is obvious.

                      When I rotate a vertical ['Z' plane] object around what i think is the RED direction it actually rotates it around the GREEN...['Y']

                      Also, TIG, can you give a little detailed explanation of the order of parameters...?
                      I have been getting an awful lot of Bugspats!!!!

                      Don't get me wrong, I think once I get the concept of it I will have found my new favourite plugin!!!

                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @Utiler
                        Z Is not obvious, with it your model goes in the 3D space up & down! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                        there is a little help text inside the code plug! Open it ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        @unknownuser said:

                        When I rotate a vertical ['Z' plane] object around what i think is the RED direction it actually rotates it around the GREEN...['Y']

                        It's around the BLUE AXIS ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Order gives you the natural order of transformations ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        About the first problem seems you can't oblige to have 80% for have perfect fit if you don't know the other X,Y,Z measures!
                        it's depending of the measure of the first start volume!
                        See my example above! I have 50% for this one (of course with my start measures volume)

                        My regulates and don't forget the Growth point position (see image above)
                        nb copy 3
                        X spacing = 0
                        Y spacing = 0
                        Z spacing = 100 cm
                        Scaling = Yes

                        Xspacing scaling = 1
                        Yspacing scaling = 1
                        Zspacing scaling = 0.5

                        Xcopy scaling = 0.5
                        Ycopy scaling = 0.5
                        Zcopy scaling = 0.5

                        (all exponential+ by default)

                        Move Scale Rotate order (or Move Rotate Scale as the is no rotation in this one)

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • utilerU Offline
                          utiler
                          last edited by

                          Thanks Pilou,
                          I believe Z is always vertical [blue axis in SU]. If the ground plane is the ground then it makes sence to me that Z [blue axis is vertical....

                          See the simple Palm tree attached.
                          GrowTest01.png
                          Say I want to rotate copy and move the palm fron as noted on the attached image. Still getting weird outcomes when I try to do so...

                          thanks in advance.


                          GrowTest.skp

                          purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                          • pilouP Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            Something like this?


                            regul.jpg


                            palm.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • utilerU Offline
                              utiler
                              last edited by

                              No, Pilou. As a Palm fron grows [pardon the pun], it faces the sky with it's flat side facing up. Sometimes, slightly rotated but for the purpose of the exersice, lets keep it simple....
                              This is what i mean.
                              GrowTest02.png
                              Then copy and rotate various frons to thicken up the folage...GrowTest03.png
                              Then do a little 'Fredo' bending....
                              GrowTest04.png

                              So thats what i want to do with grow, however I just did this example manually...
                              Skippy attached FYI...
                              Thanks for your help with this idea, Pilou, much appreciated!! ๐Ÿ‘


                              GrowTest01.skp

                              purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                Ok I see ๐Ÿ˜„
                                Maybe monday a result ๐Ÿ˜„

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • utilerU Offline
                                  utiler
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Pilou, look forward to your reply..
                                  ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

                                  purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                  • utilerU Offline
                                    utiler
                                    last edited by

                                    Pilou, My Grow dialouge Box looks a little different.... older or newer?


                                    GrowDialogueBox.png

                                    purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                    • utilerU Offline
                                      utiler
                                      last edited by

                                      Still not working.... ๐Ÿ˜ก
                                      Not getting the same result as you even though I am imputting the same data...

                                      Ready to un-install.


                                      GrowTest05-GrowDialogue.png


                                      GrowTest05.png


                                      GrowTest05-plan.png


                                      GrowTest.skp

                                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        You have an older version! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                        The last version were in this same thread always by TIG ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by

                                          Maybe this ๐Ÿ˜„
                                          But in fact all gives cool results just try different little variations
                                          Palm's pull up is given by negative value ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          Here with these regulates (click image)

                                          palm1.jpgPalm2.jpg

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • utilerU Offline
                                            utiler
                                            last edited by

                                            Damn!
                                            I hate it when i feel amateurish... ๐Ÿ˜ณ
                                            Thanks Pilou, I think I am on the right track now. I will post some updates later.

                                            Thank you kindly for your persistence.
                                            ๐Ÿ˜

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