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    • A Offline
      AcesHigh
      last edited by

      not good enough... if you have too many close by entities that you dont want to select, it does get even more difficult.

      what I have is a structure made with Soap Skin and Bubble. Lots of Squares. I want to select edges to use a TUBE ALONG PATH to create solid trelices (trussers? Whatever is the english word 😄). Clicking one by one is quite time consuming. And using the ERASER + SPACE BAR in that is impossible.

      Now, in this case, why would an Eraser like Selection Tool be better? Because there is a huge difference between having to click exactly over the line and "passing" the cursor over it to select. 😞

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      • Chris FullmerC Offline
        Chris Fullmer
        last edited by

        Run the eraser tool over them like you were going to delete them, then click the spacebar when you've got them selected.

        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
        All my Plugins I've written

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        • fredo6F Offline
          fredo6
          last edited by

          Just in case this helps, FreeScale implements a slightly different metaphor for multiselection, also based on mouse over.

          Just moving the mouse over the model, keeping CTRL depressed, will select the entities the mouse passes on.

          I did it this way in order to be able to multi-select entities, even if disjointed; you just release CTRL momentarily when you want to skip entities (whereas the Eraser metaphor would not let you skip entities). Also, you can take a breath anytime you wish, and even deselect selected entities: release CTRL, then mouse over the selected entities with CTRL depressed (with Eraser, you have to unselect all entities by pressing Escape).

          in FreeScale, the selection mechanism grabs edges, faces, groups and components. It would be fairly simple to derive a small plugin that only select edges. But of course, this is not an Eraser metaphor.

          Fredo

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
            last edited by

            not trying to get into a semantics battle but Fred used it properly. 💚

            @unknownuser said:

            depress |diˈpres|
            verb [ trans. ]
            1 make (someone) feel utterly dispirited or dejected : that first day at school depressed me.
            • reduce the level or strength of activity in (something, esp. an economic or biological system) : fear of inflation in America depressed bond markets | alcohol depresses the nervous system.
            2 push or pull (something) down into a lower position : depress the lever

            dotdotdot

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
              last edited by

              😄 So true!

              De-pressed could appear to mean Un-pressed.

              But in the case of keys on a keyboard, think of it like depression, which is a low spot, mentally sometimes, but also phyiscally. A depression in the ground is a dip, or a shallow hole. So a depressed key is a key that is held down.

              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
              All my Plugins I've written

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                I still think it's confusing

                haha yeah.. it's english though..
                we drive cars on parkways and park them in driveways.. go figure..

                dotdotdot

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
                  last edited by

                  Arghhhh! I should have used CTRL "Down", but the semantic debate is highly interesting. In French, anyway, we would have said "enfoncée", since "depressed" would mean, for the poor key, that it's close to a nervous breakdown.

                  By the way, for those interested, I can easily add a "Select Edges" utlity tool into FreeScale.

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                  • A Offline
                    AcesHigh
                    last edited by

                    well, I am certainly getting depressed for the lack of the plugin 😄

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      @unknownuser said:

                      2 push or pull (something) down into a lower position : depress the lever

                      Fair enough. I still think it's confusing that both push and pull use the same term, while in fact they are opposite.

                      You push things away fromyourself: including pushing them around/along/on/off/in/out/into/towards/through/forward/back[wards]/away/up/down/aside ! [confusingly it's often pushed 'towards' something else but away from yourself - you 'push' a broken down car, a fire-alarm button, your luck in a heated argument and your great ideas to your colleagues]

                      You pull things towardsyourself: including pulling them around/along/on/off/in/out/into/away-from/through/forward/back[wards]/up/down/aside ! [confusingly it's often pulled 'away from' something else but towards yourself - you 'pull' a sledge up hill, a girl/boy at a party, socks onto your feet and a pint of beer to drink]

                      That should now be quite clear then... 😉 ❓
                      English is just great ! BUT v_e_r_y confusing - even to Englishmen...

                      Also*"Depression"* means the same in English as in French, BUT unfortunately it also means several other things...
                      For example:

                      Melancholia
                      Sadness
                      Gloom
                      Dejection
                      Lowering of effectiveness
                      Dullness [of trade etc]
                      A dent or hollow below the general level
                      Pressing inwards
                      Economic decline
                      Low atmospheric pressure
                      A celestial body's [negative] altitude below the horizon
                      A surveyor's angle below the horizon

                      TIG

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                      • A Offline
                        August
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        ... You mean pressed, not depressed right? ...

                        Press a key = Depress a key
                        Flammable = Inflammable

                        Very, very subtle differences in meaning in these.

                        You can press a "button" on a touch-screen, but you cannot depress it. It won't move. It's generally common usage to speak of "while pressing the Ctrl key" or "while keeping the Ctrl key depressed" but not "while depressing the Ctrl key".

                        Something that is flammable will burn, like paper or a cigarette, but something that is inflammable will burst into flame, like a match or gasoline. Sometimes that difference can be crucial, or even fatal.

                        Yours in English,
                        August

                        “An idea, like a ghost, must be spoken to a little before it will explain itself.”
                        [floatr:v1mcbde2]-- Charles Dickens[/floatr:v1mcbde2]

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
                          last edited by

                          @aceshigh said:

                          well, I am certainly getting depressed for the lack of the plugin 😄

                          Maybe this could help you to fill 'un-depressed' (and therefore 'pressed')
                          http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=18916#p155058

                          Fredo

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