[Plugin][$] FredoScale - v3.6a - 01 Apr 24

mitcorb

Hi Fredo:
Here is another question specifically on FredoBend:
In the picture and in the skpv6 I am trying to bend the tan colored element so that its ends touch the rim of the circle on the ground plane. The whole figure is a component and the floating tan element is a group. Place the protractor at the center of the standing circle and bend the object as a group. I even placed a non grouped vertical reference line for the distance of the bend to assist.
Each time I try, I note in the Measurement Box a value of -4.5 degrees. I think I am following the tooltips correctly and visually the object seems to touch down. If I accept -4.5, the edge ends up more like -2.25, so I immediately correct that to -9 degrees and it might bend entirely the other direction, or bend-- I don't know-- maybe -1.125? The inferencing appears to act correctly, but I have to wonder if this is related to JQL's issue? The other real possibility is that I am not properly doing the procedure.
Please show me what I am missing.

circledesignwarpv6.skp

mitcorb

My workaround was to overbend by a smidge, lift the end up to meet the base circle. Bend the other end-- again overbend it. Go back to the other end to set the center of rotation and rotate the other end to touch the face of the circle. If I wanted the bent piece to span to the circumference, I would have to use Scale or Stretch, which I will try next.

fredo6

NEW RELEASE: FredoScale v2.5b - 05 Feb 14

FredoScale 2.5b fixes a bug related to the accuracy of scale factors for Box Target mode. This was signaled by JQL (see this thread).

FredoScale 2.5 requires LibFredo6 5.4 or higher.
Ideally, take this opportunity to move to LibFredo6 5.6.

See main post of this thread for Download.

Fredo

mitcorb

Hi, Fredo:
See my posting above your update announcement. I updated and then went back to the model. I got a bugsplat and sent it in. This was just an attempt to overcompensate for the bend repeatedly falling short. I measured the angle for the bend with the Sketchup protractor. The value was ~-4.475 deg. Doing the bend with the inferencing I saw ~-4.5 deg.
What I did differently is set the center of the bend on the ground plane below the center of the standing circle and inferenced. Still got the extremity to go only ~half the distance. While attempting to correct this in the Measurement Box, the Bugsplat occurred.
I am sure you are busy.

tulacong

Happy new years luna 2014

fredo6

@mitcorb said:

Hi, Fredo:
See my posting above your update announcement. I updated and then went back to the model. I got a bugsplat and sent it in. This was just an attempt to overcompensate for the bend repeatedly falling short. I measured the angle for the bend with the Sketchup protractor. The value was ~-4.475 deg. Doing the bend with the inferencing I saw ~-4.5 deg.
What I did differently is set the center of the bend on the ground plane below the center of the standing circle and inferenced. Still got the extremity to go only ~half the distance. While attempting to correct this in the Measurement Box, the Bugsplat occurred.
I am sure you are busy.

I need to revisit the way target is inferenced in this tool, for sure. And post-edition too, as you crash may be related to the fact that, once bent, the shape becomes overly triangulated.
It's an old plugin, and I don't even remember if there is a trick to achieve what you wish to do.

In any case, the value of the angle in the VCB is twice the actual angle measured with the Protractor. I measured 6.382 degree with the Protractor, so you need to enter 12,75 degree in the VCB.

I'll have a look when I have time.

Fredo

mitcorb

Thanks, Fredo:
This is an example of something that I have noticed from some time back. I just assumed it had something to do with the nature of 3d modeling in Sketchup, and did not pursue it until now. JQL's question resparked it while I was doodling this model. FredoBend works well enough for modeling by eye and impromptu modification. And, I really wasn't intending to be very precise, because there are other ways to achieve what I was doing.
Thanks again for all you do.

hiroya

good

Mike Whitton

I have just installed SU 2014 - I cannot get any of the Fredo 6 plugins to work. Am I doing anything wrong or are they all not yet compatible with SU 2014?

Dave R

Did you just copy the files over from the old installation? Download fresh version of Fredo's plugins from the Plugin Store. Or better, install the SCF Plugin Store plugin and install Fredo's plugins automatically. Make sure you get the current version of LibFredo, too.

veerlexyz

Mike,

Turn your Sketchup off and on again. That worked for me.
This is what I wrote about it in the topic Sketchup 2014.
Libfredo6 keeps "Uninstalled" in the list "My Extensions" in "Extension Warehouse" although it is working. I could not install it with the Extension Warehouse but used the .rbz file instead. Same with Fredo Scale and Fredo Tools. These ones were not visible in Sketchup untill I turned the programm off and on again. Although they stay marked "Uninstalled" in "Extension Warehouse" the plugins do work fine.
My other plugins seem to work. Not done them all...

Veerle

dacastror

The tools in this plugin having to modify geometry, causing "bugs plats" in one instance with instances nested inside, works well when the tool only affects axes

I understand that exploiting all interior groups solved the problem, but would be good if the user had some kind of warning

I'm using the latest version of this plugin in Sketchup 8 (Spanish version)
I attached a file as an example of a group that can cause problems

grupos.skp

forgive errors of translation (google translator)

Dave R

What a strange way of grouping things. It makes no sense.

Still, I'm not having any difficulty modifying it with FredoScale. Maybe you could show what you are trying to achieve?

dacastror

@dave r said:

What a strange way of grouping things. It makes no sense.

Still, I'm not having any difficulty modifying it with FredoScale. Maybe you could show what you are trying to achieve?

Dave tries to use "radial bend" (for example) on the largest group

Dave R

Screenshot - 3_28_2014 , 8_50_20 PM.png

Screenshot - 3_28_2014 , 8_54_11 PM.png

Like this?

I see what you mean about the Bug Splat but after I gave it a logical grouping it works just fine. I expect it's caused by your strange method of grouping.

dacastror

right now I'm not designing something, I'm just writing a plugin and discovered this bug by chance

I think that could be a problem related to the issue that are not "unique groups" and are nested

joonnyy

Hello
I have installed SU 2014. I installed via the / install extensions / / Fredo6_! LibFredo6 - v5.7 - 15 Feb 14.rbz / a plugin / Fredo6_FredoScale - v2.6b - 05 Feb 14.rbz /
When I run SU 2014 I got a critical alert / LibFredo6 will be updated at next startup of Sketchup / when I click OK appears critical window / load errors /

Error loading file Fredo6_FredoScale.rb
Error: # <NameError: UNINITIALIZED constant Fredo6::Traductor>
C Users / Jan / AppData / Roaming / SketchUp / SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/Fredo6_FredoScale.rb: 41: in <module:Fredo6> ' C :/ Users / Jan / AppData / Roaming / SketchUp / SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/Fredo6_FredoScale.rb: 25: in <top (required)> '

Where I make mistakes when installing? Thanks

bmike

@dave r said:

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[attachment=2:lp5xixsu]Screenshot - 3_28_2014 , 8_54_11 PM.png[/attachment:lp5xixsu]

Like this?

I see what you mean about the Bug Splat but after I gave it a logical grouping it works just fine. I expect it's caused by your strange method of grouping.

I used this plugin on an entire house - windows, doors, walls, compound roof, etc. etc.
I crashed and crashed - until I started to pull apart the model into logical groups.

After I figured that out - it worked perfectly.

To solve a 'bending' a large model - draw an origin, and a line. Now take apart the model in logical groups (all the windows, all the doors, the walls, etc. etc.

Copy / Paste in place into a new drawing the group of objects, and the origin and scale line.
Group everything, FredoScale Bend.
Copy / Paste in place into a new drawing.

Repeat, but always paste the bent components in place together, in that new 'bent' drawing.

It let me take this:

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To this:

[attachment=0:lp5xixsu]Screen Shot 2014-06-13 at 11.43.44 AM.png[/attachment:lp5xixsu]

Screen Shot 2014-06-13 at 11.43.55 AM.png

Screen Shot 2014-06-13 at 11.43.44 AM.png

numerobis

Would it be possible to add a scale option for scaling around the base point of a group/component? And another one for scaling multiple groups/components based on their local origin? (as it works in max for instance)

fredo6

@numerobis said:

Would it be possible to add a scale option for scaling around the base point of a group/component?

What is the base point exactly? Currently FredoScale uses the center of the bounding box.

@numerobis said:

And another one for scaling multiple groups/components based on their local origin? (as it works in max for instance)

This would be a different plugin, but I think there exists already one doing this.

Fredo