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    • R Offline
      remus
      last edited by

      Very intriguing indeed, once more, thanks for the link.

      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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      • david_hD Offline
        david_h
        last edited by

        The video went so fast it was hard to tell some of the steps.

        Some questions that occured to me . . .Did he create the Spiral from the disks? obviously the spiral has to be sticky to the disks. I noticed that the facets of the circle were rotated very quickly in the second or third step. Am i reading that right?

        Then it dawned on me just to keep the original model vase file and everytime i manipulate it, just save as new. Then I always have the "raw" model.

        If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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        • W Offline
          watkins
          last edited by

          Dear David,

          This should make things clear

          Also

          Regards,
          Bob

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            New paradigm with old things! 😎 Absolutely brilliant! 👍
            I don't want imagine possibilities with other starting forms! ☀fun.jpg

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              the thing that's really interesting to me is another one of his videos.. i can replicate it but i really don't understand why this is possible..

              http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/what_the.jpg

              parts of the shape look like things i do in my work but this technique appears uncontrollable.. does anybody know what's going on here?

              [edit] -- more specifically, i'm talking about what happens at 25 seconds into the video.. the 'wiggling' of the rotate tool on the selected hidden lines... it causes the ends of the shape to puff up.


              whatthe.skp

              dotdotdot

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                xrok1
                last edited by

                ha, looks like a glitch. i can hear the gears turning, it wouldn't surprise me if someone can pervert this into a bend ruby. 😄

                “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                • ton baetenT Offline
                  ton baeten
                  last edited by

                  The unexpected depts of SketchUp!
                  This 'feature' has always been there, but hardly anyone ever payed any attention to it....untill now.
                  It's fun, interesting and intriguing at the same time.
                  I have been playing with it for hours and created unexpected shapes and forms within minutes.
                  It took me some time to really 'get' the tricks shown in all of KitoRaub's videos, I replayed them a couple of times, but in fact the trick is just adding a coherent, simple, sticking, visible geometry to a 3d shape and manipulating just that geometry with standard SU functions. No rubies needed, just simple SU.
                  The videos show a bit of perpendicular rotation and scaling of the selection, but I have already found out it is not limited to these. More basic SU functionality can be used and combinations result in very unexpected free formed shapes.
                  The only thing now is to learn how to control the results of a deformation: what happens and why?
                  Try and error will be the road to go, but I have already found a new and easy way to create some shapes which took me qiute a hard time, untill now.
                  Thanks Watkins for your finding.

                  greetings,
                  Ton

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                  • T Offline
                    Teezer
                    last edited by

                    New toy! Yummy...

                    Real life is just another website, albeit a rather boring one.

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                    • E Offline
                      Ecuadorian
                      last edited by

                      [recovers from shock]
                      [picks up jaw from the floor]
                      [rushes to give 5 stars to all of Kito's SU videos and subscribe to his channel]

                      -Miguel Lescano
                      Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by

                        That method with selecting a line along the length of a segmented tube, using the protractor to bend it... what on earth is going on here? I don't understand. I see it working, but I don't understand. Though, somewhat unpredictable, it's very cool.

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • pilouP Offline
                          pilou
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          what on earth is going on here? I don't understand. I see it working, but I don't understand

                          Maybe like this? 😉
                          As the spiral line is inside each little "squares" (hidden geometry) and these are "unbreakable" all must follow! 💚


                          poterie.jpg

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            pilou, thomas is talking about a separate techinique

                            watch this and please tell me what is happening.
                            http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/Qtool.mov

                            .

                            dotdotdot

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                              kwistenbiebel
                              last edited by

                              Could this technique be made into a ruby?
                              Following what I see in the youtube (using the auxiliary spiral), this could be done, right?

                              A ruby that would model the spiral for you and make the scaling behave as described in this thread would be wonderful. 👍

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                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                @kwistenbiebel said:

                                Could this technique be made into a ruby?
                                Following what I see in the youtube (using the auxiliary spiral), this could be done, right?

                                A ruby that would model the spiral for you and make the scaling behave as described in this thread would be wonderful. 👍

                                Harnessing it into something more controllable... hmmm..

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  watch this and please tell me what is happening.

                                  Maybe this little image can explicit that 😉
                                  No magic inside, it's totally normal! 💚 (click image if scrollbars)

                                  It's like escarpolette (seesaw) 😄 Ground don't move! ☀

                                  http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg


                                  hehe.jpg

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    Ecuadorian
                                    last edited by

                                    Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                                    -Miguel Lescano
                                    Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                                      xrok1
                                      last edited by

                                      pilou, it works with no bottom as well! you may have something with the triangle thought but it would be the triangle nearest to the selected edges that would be effecting the shape not the ones on the opposite flat side.

                                      “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                      http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        Yep but these are fixed too! 😉fixed.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • thomthomT Offline
                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by

                                          But how come it only grows?

                                          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          • GaieusG Offline
                                            Gaieus
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg

                                            Hm... Fragonard...
                                            Good taste, Pilou (I think I'd better go back to teach art history 😉 )

                                            Gai...

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