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    • david_hD Offline
      david_h
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      The video went so fast it was hard to tell some of the steps.

      Some questions that occured to me . . .Did he create the Spiral from the disks? obviously the spiral has to be sticky to the disks. I noticed that the facets of the circle were rotated very quickly in the second or third step. Am i reading that right?

      Then it dawned on me just to keep the original model vase file and everytime i manipulate it, just save as new. Then I always have the "raw" model.

      If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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      • W Offline
        watkins
        last edited by

        Dear David,

        This should make things clear

        Also

        Regards,
        Bob

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          New paradigm with old things! 😎 Absolutely brilliant! 👍
          I don't want imagine possibilities with other starting forms! ☀fun.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • jeff hammondJ Offline
            jeff hammond
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            the thing that's really interesting to me is another one of his videos.. i can replicate it but i really don't understand why this is possible..

            http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/what_the.jpg

            parts of the shape look like things i do in my work but this technique appears uncontrollable.. does anybody know what's going on here?

            [edit] -- more specifically, i'm talking about what happens at 25 seconds into the video.. the 'wiggling' of the rotate tool on the selected hidden lines... it causes the ends of the shape to puff up.


            whatthe.skp

            dotdotdot

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              xrok1
              last edited by

              ha, looks like a glitch. i can hear the gears turning, it wouldn't surprise me if someone can pervert this into a bend ruby. 😄

              “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

              http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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              • ton baetenT Offline
                ton baeten
                last edited by

                The unexpected depts of SketchUp!
                This 'feature' has always been there, but hardly anyone ever payed any attention to it....untill now.
                It's fun, interesting and intriguing at the same time.
                I have been playing with it for hours and created unexpected shapes and forms within minutes.
                It took me some time to really 'get' the tricks shown in all of KitoRaub's videos, I replayed them a couple of times, but in fact the trick is just adding a coherent, simple, sticking, visible geometry to a 3d shape and manipulating just that geometry with standard SU functions. No rubies needed, just simple SU.
                The videos show a bit of perpendicular rotation and scaling of the selection, but I have already found out it is not limited to these. More basic SU functionality can be used and combinations result in very unexpected free formed shapes.
                The only thing now is to learn how to control the results of a deformation: what happens and why?
                Try and error will be the road to go, but I have already found a new and easy way to create some shapes which took me qiute a hard time, untill now.
                Thanks Watkins for your finding.

                greetings,
                Ton

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                • T Offline
                  Teezer
                  last edited by

                  New toy! Yummy...

                  Real life is just another website, albeit a rather boring one.

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                  • E Offline
                    Ecuadorian
                    last edited by

                    [recovers from shock]
                    [picks up jaw from the floor]
                    [rushes to give 5 stars to all of Kito's SU videos and subscribe to his channel]

                    -Miguel Lescano
                    Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      That method with selecting a line along the length of a segmented tube, using the protractor to bend it... what on earth is going on here? I don't understand. I see it working, but I don't understand. Though, somewhat unpredictable, it's very cool.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        what on earth is going on here? I don't understand. I see it working, but I don't understand

                        Maybe like this? 😉
                        As the spiral line is inside each little "squares" (hidden geometry) and these are "unbreakable" all must follow! 💚


                        poterie.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          pilou, thomas is talking about a separate techinique

                          watch this and please tell me what is happening.
                          http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/Qtool.mov

                          .

                          dotdotdot

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                          • K Offline
                            kwistenbiebel
                            last edited by

                            Could this technique be made into a ruby?
                            Following what I see in the youtube (using the auxiliary spiral), this could be done, right?

                            A ruby that would model the spiral for you and make the scaling behave as described in this thread would be wonderful. 👍

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @kwistenbiebel said:

                              Could this technique be made into a ruby?
                              Following what I see in the youtube (using the auxiliary spiral), this could be done, right?

                              A ruby that would model the spiral for you and make the scaling behave as described in this thread would be wonderful. 👍

                              Harnessing it into something more controllable... hmmm..

                              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                watch this and please tell me what is happening.

                                Maybe this little image can explicit that 😉
                                No magic inside, it's totally normal! 💚 (click image if scrollbars)

                                It's like escarpolette (seesaw) 😄 Ground don't move! ☀

                                http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg


                                hehe.jpg

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  Ecuadorian
                                  last edited by

                                  Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                                  -Miguel Lescano
                                  Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                                    xrok1
                                    last edited by

                                    pilou, it works with no bottom as well! you may have something with the triangle thought but it would be the triangle nearest to the selected edges that would be effecting the shape not the ones on the opposite flat side.

                                    “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                    http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      Yep but these are fixed too! 😉fixed.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        But how come it only grows?

                                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • GaieusG Offline
                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2_TqsqwsOK0/Rix6rKL7-eI/AAAAAAAAAxg/DYKg5G-N6ak/s400/fragonard+escarpolette.jpg

                                          Hm... Fragonard...
                                          Good taste, Pilou (I think I'd better go back to teach art history 😉 )

                                          Gai...

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            Just stick to the standard 640x480 size and you'll get no scrollbars.

                                            But i was under with 547*358 😮

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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