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    [Plugin] Perpendicular Face Tools (UPDATED 26-03-09)

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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      Not like that. That simply scales the shape. They are talking about morphing for instance a circle shape to a star shape.

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        xrok1
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        that would be a loft wouldn't it?

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
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          In Nurbs language it's more kown as a sweep 😄sweep.jpg

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
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            WOOHOO!!! I finally got it. Little by little I"m understanding transformations....after getting TONS of help from TIG on this script, and Fredo and pretty much everyone else. So I'm pleased to announce the updates to this script:

            Perpendicular Face Tools
            Description: Three Perpendicular Face tools to help create faces perpendicular to the end of lines.
            Usage: Activate it at Plugins>Chris Fullmer Tools>Perpendicular Line Tools. Change the size of squares by entering a new dimension into the measuerments box after the face has been created. Change the radius of circles by entering "12s" for 12 sides into the measurements box. To use the custom face tool, create your face flat on the groundplane. The script attempts to line up the x axis as the bottom edge of the face.

            v1.0 Updates:

            • The original face now explodes upon exiting the custom face tool.
            • Added support so that faces will stay oriented with a flat edge on the horizontal plane.
            • Holding ctrl while creating a face will over-ride the flat horizontal feature and revert back to the default SketchUp "Arbitrary Rotation".
            • Now faces can be added anywhere to a line - on the endpoint (existing feature), in the middle of a line, or on a vertex of 2 lines. The vertex of 3 lines is not supported.

            I think that is everything that was requested on this script and more. Faces now orient better, the custom face gets exploded on exiting the tool, AND being able to add perpendicular faces to a single edge, an endpoint and the vertices of 2 lines. Please let me know if there are bugs. Its quite possible. I've tried to test it thoroughly, but its always possible I've missed something 😄

            Hope it helps,

            Chris

            PS. I think I'll do some icons for this tomorrow. Also, the video is not updated yet on the front page. I'm too tied to do it right now. I'll do it tomorrow.

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
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              I found a little bug where the custom face needs to be drawn with the back face pointing upwards. I'll try to fix that shortly so the face can be facing either way.

              Chris

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                wolfy
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                Chris, thank you so much for this, as well as other, wonderful scripts. Your expertise is highly appreciated!! ☀

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                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                  Chris Fullmer
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                  Thanks! I'm currently sitting at my computer pulling my hair out though because I can't make the custom face tool work more solidly......grrr. If I draw it, and then run the script, it normally works. But if I reverse it, its borken. OR sometimes just moving it or making a copy of it and using the copy is enough to make my script not orient it correctly. I've still got some ideas to fix it so no matter what you do it, it will orient itself uniformly. I'll get it. Once I do, I'll upload a new version. I've even got a great toolbar for the new update.

                  Chris

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                  • kenK Offline
                    ken
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                    Chris

                    Thanks for the update. However, now I have two Chris Fullmer Menu in my plugins. Is that what you intended?

                    #1
                    Scale and Rotate
                    Component on Faces
                    Select Lines by Lenght

                    The other:
                    #2
                    Perpendicular Face Tool
                    3 Line Tool

                    Thanks for all your work

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                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                      Chris Fullmer
                      last edited by

                      Hmm, that is not at all what I intended. I'll check to see if I messed up my menu system somehow. Thanks for letting me know,

                      Chris

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                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by

                        sweet
                        thank you!

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          1 thing, (and this is more/less for discussion because i'm well aware i might be in the minority)

                          with the perp.circle, would you rather have the vertex of the segments at the top -or- one of the segments being horizontal (the way it's working now).

                          personally, i think it would be better if the vertex were at the top so diameter/radius lines can be drawn vertically or horizontally..

                          (am i even making any sense? 😄 )

                          that aside, i really like the change to perp.square.. having the horizontal edge is great.

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                            putnik
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            having the horizontal edge is great.

                            +1. Thank you, Chris.

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              for example... drawing something like this:

                              screenshot 2.jpg

                              would be 3 or 4 steps faster if the vertex of the circle were up top instead of the segment.. regardless of that part though, this script is way better than having to manually draw the perpendicular plane to begin with..

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                              • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                Chris Fullmer
                                last edited by

                                ok, I have updated it again. This time it has a toolbar:

                                per_faces_toolbar.jpg

                                I've also attempted to fix some serious issues with the custom face tool and how it orients itself. Unfortunately, its still only about 99% right. There are times when the custom face tool will not orient the face as expected. Often when used on a line that perfectly on the y axis. I'm sure its just a bug in how I'm rotating. But I've looked at the code too long and its really messy. So maybe later I'll re-write it from scratch to clean it up.

                                As for rotating so that a point is always up.....I'm listening. I don't quite get the benefit by the example you showed though. I generally like to draw through circles on the mid point of edges, not on the vertices. But I might be the only one. So do you have another example that shows how it would be useful to do it with a vertice always on top?

                                I also updated the video on the front page.

                                Chris

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                                  xrok1
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  1 thing, (and this is more/less for discussion because i'm well aware i might be in the minority)

                                  with the perp.circle, would you rather have the vertex of the segments at the top -or- one of the segments being horizontal (the way it's working now).

                                  personally, i think it would be better if the vertex were at the top so diameter/radius lines can be drawn vertically or horizontally..

                                  (am i even making any sense? 😄 )

                                  that aside, i really like the change to perp.square.. having the horizontal edge is great.

                                  if you type an uneven number of segments you will have a vert at the top. 😉

                                  “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                  http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                  • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                    jeff hammond
                                    last edited by

                                    @chris fullmer said:

                                    So do you have another example that shows how it would be useful to do it with a vertice always on top?

                                    this one:

                                    http://homepage.mac.com/jeffhammond/.Public/scf/arcdimension.jpg

                                    they're both the same circle.. it's better (for me) to have the actual radius on a vert/horizontal.

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                                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by

                                      @xrok1 said:

                                      if you type an uneven number of segments you will have a vert at the top. 😉

                                      yeah, and that would work to an extent but then the horizontal is off.. i usually work off of 1/4 circles, get them to the right height, and then divide them into 8"o.c. segments.. it's just easier for me if everything is straight up&down / side-to-side at the beginning of the process.

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                                      • X Offline
                                        xrok1
                                        last edited by

                                        makes sense.

                                        “There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

                                        http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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                                        • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                          Chris Fullmer
                                          last edited by

                                          Well I see where its handy, especially if its already a normal part of your workflow. I think what I can implement easy enough is like a shift key that will rotate the faces. Hit the shift key once and it rotates.

                                          A square could rotate 45 degrees each shift. A circle could rotate whatever degree would be require to shift between a flat edge down or a vertex down. THe custom face could rotate 90 degrees, since a fast way to rotate it 180degrees would be handy, perhaps increments of 90 would be a good place.

                                          Anyhow, those are thoughts. I'll implement it. I'll even see if I can make the circle work so that it starts with the vertices at the top and bottom from the start. So the shift would take make it have an edge on top bottom. Make sense? Anyhow, I'll work on it. Let me know if you have any thoughts on the ideas and I'll see what I can do. But I'll be taking a break to watch LOST in a few minutes 😄

                                          Chris

                                          Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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                                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                            jeff hammond
                                            last edited by

                                            @chris fullmer said:

                                            But I'll be taking a break to watch LOST in a few minutes 😄

                                            haha

                                            i don't know. it's up to you.. i do think it's important to keep it fairly simple instead of using a somewhat obscure reason to bloat it.. maybe some others can chime in and reach a consensus..
                                            now that i think about it, once i start using this in a drawing, i'll probably prefer using the square instead.. even if i'm drawing an arc.

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