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    • MALAISEM Offline
      MALAISE
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      👍 👍

      MALAISE

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      • BurkhardB Offline
        Burkhard
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        seems somebody understands! great tool and more as I expected 👍

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        • Chris FullmerC Offline
          Chris Fullmer
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          ok, I'm struggling to get the rotations to work. I'm working on the square first. I can get it to rotate nicely around the z-axis. But I have not figured out a way to determine exactly how much to rotate it to get it where I want. I think this is just my lack of general mathematical knowledge. So can anyone offer some help with this? The image shows a mock-up of the problem. The square is what I am rotating on the labeled centerpoint. Chord AB needs to align with chord CD. But chord AB is not supplied. It is the vector made of 2 points where the y values are equal and its length is equal to AB.

          I'm sure that explanation makes no sense. Hopefully someone out there can read between the lines and figure out what I'm actually asking. Thanks,

          rotationhelp.jpg

          Chris

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            xrok1
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            could you not just align one of the sides to vertical (z)?

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
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              No, it doesn't show it well, but the sides are often not vertical. The alignment needs to make the top and bottom lie on planes that are "flat", but the sides are not necessarily vertical.

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                putnik
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                Thank you Chris A very useful script, am using it right now

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                • L Offline
                  linea
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                  Thanks Chris.

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                  • erikBE Offline
                    erikB
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                    Chris,
                    Thanks for the usefull ruby !
                    erikB

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                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                      Chris Fullmer
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                      Your response hasn't gone un-noticed Tig. I thank you immensely for it. I'm still working on implementing it 😳 I think there is a small flaw in that I don't point C either. I think I know how to get it, so thats good. In fact, it is essentially what you provided with the "cosine rule". Thanks for that! That is currently what I'm working at. I had one method, but it was rather convoluted and started to fall apart for some reason, so I think it must not have been sound. This new method feels much more mathematically correct. I'll let you know how it goes. Hopefully within a few hours. Thanks sooo much for your help and ideas,

                      Chris

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
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                        To rotate the square you have more than enough info. You don't actually need point-D.

                        You want to rotate it about the centre-point [let's call it point-O] - so you know that too.
                        You know point-A and point-C as you have them initially or have just calculated them already.
                        Now find the angle between the two vectors O->A and O->C.***
                        Select all of the square's edges (face will go with them?) and make a rotation-transformation about point-O by that angle: using the normal to the square's face as the axis of rotation...

                        Points A and C, and points B and D will then be coincident...


                        "new vector"
                        v = [x,y,z]
                        vector1 = Geom::Vector3d.new(v)

                        Where v [x,y,z] is obtained from the sum of the two points v = (pointO - pointA) etc

                        you might also want to ".normalize" the vector(s)...

                        Find vector2 (O->C) the same way...

                        "angle_between vectors"

                        The angle_between method is used to compute the angle (in radians) between this vector and another vector.

                        Syntax

                        angle = vector1.angle_between(vector2)

                        Arguments

                        vector2 - a Vector3d object

                        Return Value

                        angle - an angle (in radians)

                        Example

                        vector1 = Geom::Vector3d.new(x,y,z)
                        vector2 = Geom::Vector3d.new(xx,yy,zz)

                        angle = vector1.angle_between(vector2)

                        ###########

                        A bit more complicated to my mind is doing it with the 'cosine rule',

                        here it is though - you can easily find the length 'AC'

                        you have the other two points and can use 'AC = pointA.distance(pointC)' method for that.

                        You also know the circle's Radius - or can easily get it from the square's side dim.

                        Angle = Math::acos((RadiusRadius + RadiusRadius - ACAC) / (2Radius))

                        Note: if Angle > 90 degrees (pi/2) then it's negative...

                        .

                        TIG

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                        • MALAISEM Offline
                          MALAISE
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                          Hi Chris

                          Small feedback : using customer shape crashes SU ( under Windows XP 3)without any message.

                          MALAISE

                          La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
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                            @malaise said:

                            Hi Chris

                            Small feedback : using customer shape crashes SU ( under Windows XP 3)without any message.

                            MALAISE

                            Oh dear, thats not good. Can anyone else confirm? I don't have xp sp3 anywhere to test it on. Is it possible that it is a conflict with another script? That doesn't seem likely to me since I think I've written my code so that can not happen.

                            I do have xp sp2 I can test it on. Perhaps if I can duplicate it there, I can narrow down the problem. Thanks for the notice,

                            Chris

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                              Dave R
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                              Chris, I've done a couple of experiments with it. No crashes yet. I've got XP Pro SP3.

                              Dave

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                                Ecuadorian
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                                An artist who is also a coder?
                                That's Chris Fullmer!

                                Thank you very much for taking the time to code this; with a couple of tweaks, this will be perfect. 😎

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                                • MALAISEM Offline
                                  MALAISE
                                  last edited by

                                  OK, let me see which plugin may be in conflict 👍

                                  MALAISE

                                  La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                  • MALAISEM Offline
                                    MALAISE
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi ALL

                                    Filtering the last downloaded plugins, I've found a conflict with Jim's cd_power_n.rb ( mover2.rb) Has someone experienced that? several times tested.

                                    ( SU V7, Windows XP SP3 )

                                    MALAISE ❓

                                    La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                      Chris Fullmer
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                                      Very Interesting. I have that plugin installed with no conflicts. I'll dig around tomorrow and see what I can find. Sorry for the inconvenience,

                                      Chris

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                                      • MALAISEM Offline
                                        MALAISE
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks for playing attention, no matter for inconvenience, don't worry 😄
                                        MALAISE

                                        La Connaissance n'a de valeur que partagée

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                                        • J Offline
                                          Jim
                                          last edited by

                                          @malaise said:

                                          Hi ALL

                                          Filtering the last downloaded plugins, I've found a conflict with Jim's cd_power_n.rb ( mover2.rb) Has someone experienced that? several times tested.

                                          ( SU V7, Windows XP SP3 )

                                          MALAISE ❓

                                          Mover2 does not use a file or method named cd_power_n.rb.

                                          Hi

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                                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                            Chris Fullmer
                                            last edited by

                                            I know, its cad_fathers's SCF powertools toolbar plugin that wrapped mover2 into a file called cd_power_n.rb. If you open that file, its just your script. So I'm guessing it has something to do with how its being loaded from his main plugin loader maybe? I don't know. I know I've got my whole script wrapped in a class so I thought I should not have conflicts. But perhaps there is more to it than that.

                                            Chris

                                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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