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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
      last edited by

      @cadfather said:

      Hi Thom - just to let you know, the greyed-out menus are still there on my machine.

      this only appears after some time working in SU, but i have not been able to pin the pattern so far..

      I saw some weeks ago at the office, a model someone was working on caused some strange behaviour. When you kept right clicking on a selection you'd start finding menus greyed out. When you clicked outside the geometry, on empty model space, the menu's would work again.
      This seemed to only happen on a particular model, and it happened on SU6 and 7 - even on a plain installation without any plugins.
      Is this similar to what you see?

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • CadFatherC Offline
        CadFather
        last edited by

        no, happens all the time, many items go grey (including native SU menus) regardless of the model.
        if i restart SU it works again for a while.. time limited demo mode : )

        ..of course it may be clashing with other plugins, i will run a couple of empty folder test later today

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          But removing Selection Toys instantly fixes this?

          Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          • CadFatherC Offline
            CadFather
            last edited by

            yes Thom, all works well without....

            ..can't seem to detect the pesky pattern! 😠 i have a hunch it's something to do with groups, perhaps doing operation inside/outside etc..
            keeping my eyes open anyway as your plugin is a must.. will let you know

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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
              last edited by

              Has it always been like this for you? Or is it a particular version where this started?

              Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • CadFatherC Offline
                CadFather
                last edited by

                not sure, i think i have noticed since the last 2 versions - but i could be wrong.. (erratic work)

                don't you notice it on your machine?

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  No. I use it all the time when I work - also got co-workers that use it. Never had such problems. Which is why I'm at a loss to what it can be. If I can't reproduce it I have no idea what it could be.

                  Maybe it's a plugin combo?

                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  • CadFatherC Offline
                    CadFather
                    last edited by

                    um.. it must be a clash then.. with all the gems in the folders we're in need of the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please'

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Is there any messages in the Ruby console?

                      I find it very off that menu's should become disabled. Makes no sense.
                      Do you have SU7 installed?
                      Would it be possible for you to install a fresh SU6 install and add only Selection Toys and see if you still see the same thing then? That's be one way to testing for clashes without having to remove all your plugins from your work-SU version.

                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • CadFatherC Offline
                        CadFather
                        last edited by

                        Thom, swapping the plugins folder is not a problem.. i can move them around, copy etc.. (SU 7)

                        the cheesed thing is the (so far) unpredictable occurrence - it doesn't happen straight away.. but 'gently' after a while..

                        as you know it could be anything. but it's good to know it works on your side - only need some time to look into it

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by

                          Hi thomthom,
                          I have started with v1.5.1 and we are now with v1.12.0 !! even and even complete and useful.
                          Many thanks..
                          Simon.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            CadFather: do your model often have a high number of layers?

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                            • CadFatherC Offline
                              CadFather
                              last edited by

                              not that many - say 6 to 8 for a fairly complex model - i use groups/comps more

                              (i'm still looking...no luck so far)

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
                                last edited by

                                You running many other applications?
                                I'm wondering if this post has any clues to the menu issues: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20791#p175253

                                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • Bob JamesB Offline
                                  Bob James
                                  last edited by

                                  @cadfather said:

                                  with all the gems in the folders we're in need of the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please'

                                  Amen, I'll definitely second that suggestion!!

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                                  • CadFatherC Offline
                                    CadFather
                                    last edited by

                                    i see, interesting.. though i never experienced Rick's behaviour (i don't usually have many apps running in the background)
                                    certainly i never saw an item re-appear.. would be nice to have a confirmation from google about ruby limits..

                                    seems to mean that if selection toys (for example) had less items the problem might temporarily disappear..

                                    i think the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please', if at all possible, would have to come from google.

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      @cadfather said:

                                      seems to mean that if selection toys (for example) had less items the problem might temporarily disappear..

                                      I'll make a deubg version for you, though, it'll have to be next week. I'm going away for a small trip.

                                      @cadfather said:

                                      i think the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please', if at all possible, would have to come from google.

                                      it's rather an impossible task. first you have to know what the "clash" is. Meaning you have to know exactly how everything is expected to work. can't see you can program that...

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • CadFatherC Offline
                                        CadFather
                                        last edited by

                                        no hurry, enjoy your trip Thom..

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                                        • S Offline
                                          su30
                                          last edited by

                                          I have the same problem as CADfather had...
                                          I only use SU6, checked every plugins and found the problem in this script (Version1.12.0), It didn't happen before in lower versions.
                                          just after some open&close group action, the bug occurs, right-click menu Grey-out...
                                          so if you have any thing need me feedback, don't hesitate to tell me!

                                          su30

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            Here's a debug version with the layer filters removed. Can the people that has experienced problems with the menu's try this and see if that solves the matter.


                                            Debug Version

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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