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    • Bob JamesB Offline
      Bob James
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      • J Offline
        japanNuke
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        thanks thomthom!
        love this plugin, one of the best for me so far 😎

        %(#BFBFBF)[be cool
        be bad]

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        • CadFatherC Offline
          CadFather
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          Hi Thom - just to let you know, the greyed-out menus are still there on my machine.

          this only appears after some time working in SU, but i have not been able to pin the pattern so far..

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            @cadfather said:

            Hi Thom - just to let you know, the greyed-out menus are still there on my machine.

            this only appears after some time working in SU, but i have not been able to pin the pattern so far..

            I saw some weeks ago at the office, a model someone was working on caused some strange behaviour. When you kept right clicking on a selection you'd start finding menus greyed out. When you clicked outside the geometry, on empty model space, the menu's would work again.
            This seemed to only happen on a particular model, and it happened on SU6 and 7 - even on a plain installation without any plugins.
            Is this similar to what you see?

            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • CadFatherC Offline
              CadFather
              last edited by

              no, happens all the time, many items go grey (including native SU menus) regardless of the model.
              if i restart SU it works again for a while.. time limited demo mode : )

              ..of course it may be clashing with other plugins, i will run a couple of empty folder test later today

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                But removing Selection Toys instantly fixes this?

                Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • CadFatherC Offline
                  CadFather
                  last edited by

                  yes Thom, all works well without....

                  ..can't seem to detect the pesky pattern! 😠 i have a hunch it's something to do with groups, perhaps doing operation inside/outside etc..
                  keeping my eyes open anyway as your plugin is a must.. will let you know

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    Has it always been like this for you? Or is it a particular version where this started?

                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • CadFatherC Offline
                      CadFather
                      last edited by

                      not sure, i think i have noticed since the last 2 versions - but i could be wrong.. (erratic work)

                      don't you notice it on your machine?

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        No. I use it all the time when I work - also got co-workers that use it. Never had such problems. Which is why I'm at a loss to what it can be. If I can't reproduce it I have no idea what it could be.

                        Maybe it's a plugin combo?

                        Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                        • CadFatherC Offline
                          CadFather
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                          um.. it must be a clash then.. with all the gems in the folders we're in need of the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please'

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            Is there any messages in the Ruby console?

                            I find it very off that menu's should become disabled. Makes no sense.
                            Do you have SU7 installed?
                            Would it be possible for you to install a fresh SU6 install and add only Selection Toys and see if you still see the same thing then? That's be one way to testing for clashes without having to remove all your plugins from your work-SU version.

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • CadFatherC Offline
                              CadFather
                              last edited by

                              Thom, swapping the plugins folder is not a problem.. i can move them around, copy etc.. (SU 7)

                              the cheesed thing is the (so far) unpredictable occurrence - it doesn't happen straight away.. but 'gently' after a while..

                              as you know it could be anything. but it's good to know it works on your side - only need some time to look into it

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                              • simon le bonS Offline
                                simon le bon
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                                Hi thomthom,
                                I have started with v1.5.1 and we are now with v1.12.0 !! even and even complete and useful.
                                Many thanks..
                                Simon.

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  CadFather: do your model often have a high number of layers?

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • CadFatherC Offline
                                    CadFather
                                    last edited by

                                    not that many - say 6 to 8 for a fairly complex model - i use groups/comps more

                                    (i'm still looking...no luck so far)

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      You running many other applications?
                                      I'm wondering if this post has any clues to the menu issues: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=20791#p175253

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • Bob JamesB Offline
                                        Bob James
                                        last edited by

                                        @cadfather said:

                                        with all the gems in the folders we're in need of the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please'

                                        Amen, I'll definitely second that suggestion!!

                                        i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

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                                        • CadFatherC Offline
                                          CadFather
                                          last edited by

                                          i see, interesting.. though i never experienced Rick's behaviour (i don't usually have many apps running in the background)
                                          certainly i never saw an item re-appear.. would be nice to have a confirmation from google about ruby limits..

                                          seems to mean that if selection toys (for example) had less items the problem might temporarily disappear..

                                          i think the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please', if at all possible, would have to come from google.

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @cadfather said:

                                            seems to mean that if selection toys (for example) had less items the problem might temporarily disappear..

                                            I'll make a deubg version for you, though, it'll have to be next week. I'm going away for a small trip.

                                            @cadfather said:

                                            i think the 'new-spot-the-clash-finder-ruby-please', if at all possible, would have to come from google.

                                            it's rather an impossible task. first you have to know what the "clash" is. Meaning you have to know exactly how everything is expected to work. can't see you can program that...

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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