Do humans have a free will?
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I thought he was a pretty wacky thinker. Here is a link relating to Rudolf Steiner.
http://canterburyatheists.blogspot.com/2008/10/rudolf-steiner-racist-esoteric-cult-or.html
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Oy, are you guys still at this?
The Lord is ONE,Cornel. Not 3 or 2. Orthodox jews cannot step into a church because they are only allowed to go to houses of worship where the beleivers are NOT monotheists. Strange as it may seem, that kind of only leaves a mosque open to them aside from synogogues. According to Jews, Christians are not monotheistic.
Is that going to start another rant? Just an interesting aside.
How about , God is None.Stop already.
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I don't believe this theory of course (I don't believe in a personified God at all). but I liked the idea, that placing the god that we pray to, that we 'stay in contact with', is by no means the highest entity in this universe.
thanks for the link about Rudolf Steiner. quite some interesting bits in there.
I myself visited a Waldorf School. And I have to say, that I was barely confronted with his weird theories - I learned pretty much the same as you do at state schools. but what I really liked was the amount of freedom we were granted. and I utterly enjoyed the creative approach, with loads of crafts and art classes (one of my favorites was iron forging).one big problem of course is the fact that there doesn't exist a controlling element, like with state schools, meaning, that each individual Waldorf School can do pretty much, what they want (if they go too far, they are excluded from the Waldorf School association of course).
but that means, that you can find open minded and progressive schools; but if you happen to run across one of those dogmatic ones, who take Steiner literally instead of grasping the overall creative idea and translating it to the present time, it can be outrageous and highly dangerous (for the children, because they learn rubbish).as I said, I was lucky
. and if I find a school that is modern and open minded enough, I will send my children there (once I've got 'em); not necessarily a Waldorf School, but one that has the same free thinking (as many school systems in northern Europe, like Sweden, have).oh, yes: and I loved our school building. because typical Waldorf Schools try to avoid right angles. therefore it was an adventure to explore our huge school building, because everything looked different - highly creative (and rather difficult to model in SketchUp
)
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Jacob,
Regarding R.S. ātheory that in the hierarchy of heaven the chirstian god is only a rather unimportant little fellowāā¦,
itās explicableā¦:
Rudolf Steinerās god is a ālimited editionā oneā¦ !Susan,
That āstrangeā religion behavior among Jews people itās explicable, alsoā¦!
For some Jews, The Messiah didnāt appear yet, because Jesus Christ wasnāt The Kingā¦
Temporary, they are apparently right: Jesus was a Prophet, now Heās The Great Priest, but He didnāt carry out their expectation ā to reign.
They had (and have) preconceptions about Godās time 'schedule'ā¦!At His āsecond comingā, Jesus Christ will be āThe King of kingsā.
Then, āthey shall look on Him, whom they piercedāā¦ (John 19:37)Cornel
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Cornel, a new book is about to be released, maybe a good read for you.
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Christian-Bitches-Kim-Gatlin/dp/193481220X
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@unknownuser said:
Pete,
I have a brief statement used to express a principle:
āProve all things; hold fast that which is good.ā (1 Thessalonians 5:21)Cornel
Cornel
How do you experience your religion? Why is the sacred a important part of your life? Do you think it should be the measure of all things? Where you born into Christianity or was it a late revelation? Did you ever question faith at any stage? I am genuinely curious.
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Pete,
I have a brief statement used to express a principle:
āProve all things; hold fast that which is good.ā (1 Thessalonians 5:21)Cornel
[P.S.: I check them, of courseā¦, but having a guide like this one:
āDo not love the world () or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it, but he who does the will of God abides forever.ā (1 John 2:15-17)
( Fot those who arenāt familial w/ The Word of God, āthe worldā means āworld as a systemā, not as a peopleā¦)] -
@unknownuser said:
"Why are we here? How did we get here? What does life mean?"
These questions I've never trusted, as they all have a "hidden pretext" (hope this makes any sense
). For example: "why are we here?". The question sounds innocent enough, but it actually implies there must be a reason for us being here. It's only a small step to the concept of fate (predestination) from there. And to the concept of an intelligence (God) thinking it all up in advance.I'm not doing a very good job on explaining this, I think. Any native English speaker feel like getting all Wittgensteinian on the above questions?
Stinkie I know exactly what you mean. Our language have evolved to accomodate linear causality to such an extent that there are words like WHY which is a particular nonsense word because it demands the answer to be a linear one while most problems are nonlinear (i.e. it can be in different number of states and produce vast number of outcomes) in the world we live in. People ask the wrong questions. More approperiate question would something like how or by what processes did we end up being the way we are.
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Dan Dennett: A secular, scientific rebuttal to Rick Warren
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_dennett_s_response_to_rick_warren.html
Sounds reasonable to me!
Just one thought! We supposedly have been created in God's likeness
according to the Bible! Would it not follow that we should actually
THINK about matters rather than simply follows various writings
regardless of their origin?
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