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As I am not "on THE (architectural) market", I cannot contribute in that way but what I can tell is that when we made that Gothic Pécs project (which was/is actually quite a success at the exhibition) in Max, there arose a kind of "demand" for a book(let) edition of it and the final decision was something NPR (i.e. some sketchy edges style however not really wtercolour technique). So although they could have gone in the PR direction as well, they wanted to stick to a different appearance (maybe because I could produce some images that were - in their atmosphere at least - a bit similar to those medieval drawings and later cuts).
So I would not "bury" NPR either. The fact that lately there have been a couple of (more or less easily) usable renderer apps (and some of them are free or at least affordable) will not turn the "market" totally into this direction. It's the top of a wave now as many more people can discover them (like 3D modeling in general with the free SU and similar apps).
Yes, I like PR renderings, especially when they are really good and I'm amazed what can be achieved but I like NPR as well and enjoy the artistic implementations of it. It's like when I enjoy a photo exhibition as well as a painting gallery.
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@swedishnitro said:
I've studied the drawings of LTL and I came to the conclusion that they don't use sketchup. Even their recent stuff doesn't sniff of any styles. If anything, they may trace over a SU model, but from what I've seen (before they made their drawings the size of postage stamps on the website), my guess is a pencil perspective scanned in with tone added in Photoshop. My 2 cents!
PS I was laughed at in a London school of architecture for using SU. As far as I am aware, I believe it beats the pants off things like Rhino with some of the scripts I've seen.
That's possible, of course. Form-Z, handled correctly, could produce LTL's renderings.
I also teach graduate architecture courses in Rhino...don't fool yourself about SU being more capable, no matter how many scripts you employ. Anything can be modeled in Rhino, no matter how complex. And it can be modeled with a fabrication-ready level of precision utterly beyond SketchUp...1/256th of an inch is no problem. I took my Rhino training from a jewelry designer!
But for standard architectural assemblies, however, it can be a little tedious...too many steps are required in Rhino to do simple planar operations. And there are several hundred very particular surface-generating commands...most architects and architecture students (in my rather large experience here) don't understand (or willfully won't bother understanding) the subtle differences and how they impact fabrication.
I mix and match the two apps in my projects. SketchUp is great for quick planar, multi-component assemblies (component/blocks organization is not a strong point for Rhino), and if I need something precisely curved I do it in Rhino...which reads and writes SU files, so I can mash together the results for visualization in one or the other of the two packages.
(And Susan and Brian at the AIA convention talked me into upgrading my Piranesi license, so you can guess at the idiom I use to visualize them.)
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Thankfully, I haven't had much cause to go for Non Euclidian forms yet, but when I do, I'll probably go and learn Rhino properly
Is it easy to learn? The training I got went as far as 'here is how you load a script', without any references to the basics.
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@swedishnitro said:
Thankfully, I haven't had much cause to go for Non Euclidian forms yet, but when I do, I'll probably go and learn Rhino properly
Is it easy to learn? The training I got went as far as 'here is how you load a script', without any references to the basics.
Rhino? No, it's not easy to learn, for most people, and the interface has some really challenging issues. It's not SU. Teaching a beginning 3D design class centered on Rhino is like pulling (your own) teeth...over the course of a semester. Generally about a quarter of the students seem to understand the subtleties to the point where I can see them using the software for design and drafting.
This is part of the website I made for the last semester's class. If you scroll to the bottom of the page there are links to the major tutorial sites.
http://lewiswadsworth.net/rhino/resources.html
The Rhino TV site is fairly good:
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Thanks for this - I have to admit I had real trouble, being one of the only members of my studio who hadn't used it prior to that course. It's on my to do list of stuff to learn. Thanks again.
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Some of this would be nice....the What's New videos for 3DS Max Design 2009, the replacement for Viz. The Spline Mapping and Photometric Lighting is pretty cool.
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Hi all
So, anybody knows when will SU 7 be released? -
Nope, still as uncertain as ever.
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After 16 pages of rumors and speculation...how little do we know.
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Guys, I1m pretty sure that some info will be leaked at 3D BaseCamp but the timing will be uncertain even afterwards. Every evrsion needs beta testing and that can last for months in fact. So be patient!
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That'll be hard...
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Hopefully soon, Everyday I have been keeping watch for it online everywhere. Even at http://www.filehippo.com "Software updates web site".
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Michael,
Make sure to watch it here...
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I don't want any of the above.
I just want to be able to stay in Sketchup instead of having to go to AutoCAD.
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So far, I have 181 models I made on my 3dwarehouse:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?uq=04776202200154526638&scoring=d -
Any more new news on Sketchup 7 yet?
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Nope. Im sure there will be a suitably large and obvious thread when the time for news does come, though.
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My guess would be Christmas.
I estimate this because only two months ago there was an opening @Google SU team for a C++ programmer.
That could mean some serious coding still needed to be done. Count in the beta testing period (in my knowledge the beta didn't leave the office yet following the talk Lewis had with the G guys about a week ago) and you know it can't be due the next few months.
Unless we're talking about a real small update....
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