Multiple file extensions in openpanel

todd burch

Thanks for testing Jim.

Al, that's as good a place as any.

A guy over on the Ruby API on Google Groups found an interesting bug the other day. I reported it. http://groups.google.com/group/sketchupruby/browse_thread/thread/cea693f78613f521/d1baffa49e08010a#d1baffa49e08010a

In summary, a 4 sided face was getting created with only 3 vertices.

todd burch

That's news to me!! I've made several, although no exhaustive, changes there.

Who said that - Google? It would be nice if two things were to happen if that's the case:

Tell the people who do use it
Get rid of it (without losing the updates that were made)

When the Ruby Wiki was first put together, I asked the question "Will these changes get integrated into "official" the Ruby Help system" The answer I got back was an overwhelming "we don't know, but there it is - update it as much as you want."

Then, the next thing I see up at code.google.com was this web site: http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/developers_guide/index.html

There was no external-to-Google announcement (like an email to concerned citizens) or promotion of this web site (other than a no-fanfare link or two) that I am aware of, so then we had (and now we have) 3, count 'em, 3 different sources for doc.

For some time now, I have slacked off of updating the Ruby Doc Wiki, as it appears to me, unless I can be told different, that my updates are falling on deaf ears.

It's a mess. Someone at Google needs to decide of they want the doc updated, for free, by volunteers like us, and if so, there needs to be a process put in place that our changes make it to whatever is deemed to be the official doc in a timely manner. I mean, it's HTML for Pete's sake - not even a PDF. Maybe we need a "docforge" system???

Todd - not happy about this at all.

Al Hart

That's why I added the comment about the Wiki no longer being active - because a Wiki where we could help with the documentation would be a good idea.

Also, now that Peter, Scott and others at SketchUp were starting to develop things using Web Dialogs and Ruby, I was hoping they would help to improve the language it self and the documentation.

I'll pass this thread along to the person at Google who replied to the request to join the Wiki group, and maybe we can all come up with something which Google and some outside developers (by request and/or invitation) can help with.

I liked the idea that you were updating the documentation.

Chris Fullmer

Being totally new here, I echo Todd's frustration with having 3 sources for the API. I have a hard time telling which of the 3 I'm actually in. All I know is that things are documented slightly differently in different palces and sometimes the wiki has the best syntax and usage info (which is what I normally need TONS of help with).

Poor/multiple/unregulated/disorganized documentation has been a large frustration of mine with SU, and now that I'm looking at Ruby, its only gotten worse. I wish they would put more effort into making the info more complete and the process more transparent. I really would like to code in Ruby and I have some great ideas, and I'm getting there. But its very frustrating feeling like my #1 hinderance to learning is the SketchUp API.

Chris

Al Hart

@unknownuser said:

Thanks Jim. I have updated the Ruby Wiki Doc. http://groups.google.com/group/SketchUp-Plugins-Dev/web/Ruby-UI.html?hl=en

Todd

Is this Wiki being kept up to date.

I tried to join it and got this response:

@unknownuser said:

%(#BFFFFF)[This is a group that never really went anywhere, so we aren't actually using it.

Thanks for checking, however!]

**Added later:**After the initial posting of this post, Mark apologized that he was thinking of a different group:

@unknownuser said:

BTW, I see that I was quoted in the forum. If you wouldn't mind updating that to include
that I was wrong, that this wasn't the group I thought it was, I'd appreciate it. I don't
want folks to be misled because I got confused.

Al Hart

Since my original posting of Mark's reply about the Wiki group, Mark has apologized. He was thinking of a different group:

@unknownuser said:

BTW, I see that I was quoted in the forum. If you wouldn't mind updating that to include
that I was wrong, that this wasn't the group I thought it was, I'd appreciate it. I don't
want folks to be misled because I got confused.

Al Hart

@unknownuser said:

Then, the next thing I see up at code.google.com was this web site: http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/docs/developers_guide/index.html

I looked at this ruby documentation source and was surprised to see that Sketchup.load was not even on it.

todd burch

Yes, it's a 3-way mess.

Tyler Miller

Hey guys -

We hear you loud and clear about the documentation mess. We're working hard to resolve it.

-Tyler

todd burch

Thanks Tyler.

thomthom

@tyler miller said:

Hey guys -

We hear you loud and clear about the documentation mess. We're working hard to resolve it.

-Tyler

Ooooh! So good to hear this!

Chris Fullmer

Agreed! I'm excited!

Chris

Tyler Miller

Hey scripters -

Our new Ruby API documentation site is up! Better docs, examples, tutorials, etc. Let us know what you think.
http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/

-Tyler

thomthom

@tyler miller said:

Hey scripters -

Our new Ruby API documentation site is up! Better docs, examples, tutorials, etc. Let us know what you think.
http://code.google.com/apis/sketchup/

-Tyler

Oooohh!

This ought to be a SCF announcement!

p.s. any chance of getting a compiled PDF? (yea I know, some people* keeps asking for more... )

**** me***

Al Hart

For the record, (and to return to the original posting in the thread, I type the sample for UI,openpanel from the documentation into the new SU 7 Ruby console

chosen_image = UI.openpanel "Open Image File", "c;\\", "Shapes.jpg"

It works ok (but begs the question of why you would supply and existing path and file to UI.openpanel).

When I change it to use wildcards,

chosen_image = UI.openpanel "Open Image File", "c;\\", "*.jpg"

It shows _.jpg as the file name (underscore instead of *) and does not filter for .JPG files.