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    • A Offline
      alan wood
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      Hi Modelhead,
      My results of the last lesson can be found at:-
      http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com/navtutorial

      I will now go and check out all the information in sitebuilder help guide on the topic of iframes.

      thank you
      Alan

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      • EdsonE Offline
        Edson
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        great work, alan. it is reassuring to see how you are coming along.

        if your site is meant to atract potential clients i must say it is working. i wish we live closer so that i could recommend you to my clients. there are not many cabinet makers like you in my part of the world.

        keep it up.

        edson

        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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          alan wood
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          Hi Edson,
          Thanks for that. The site is not meant to attract personal clients.

          What I will achieve one day, is a 'must view' site that cabinet makers will visit to gain knowledge, and with practice upgrade their skills.

          What is out there at present, is not good enough in books or magazines. Some do the job reasonally well, whilst others are well below par. With the knowledge base I have in the woodworking field plus other skills including now sketchup (still upgrading them) I will have half a chance of producing an excellent package.

          Kris mentioned earlier in this thread, linking to other web sites. Initally I have two schools in mind. When I have something meaningful on my web site, I will approach them and see if they are willing to view my 'teach packages' just to see if it is suitable for a beginner, and with their help, nail it.

          I wrote recently to the editor of Fine Woodworking magazine, published in America, with details of my specialist jigs etc etc. The editor felt their readership would not be interested. Time will tell if he is right, but I really don't think so.

          In the woodworking world we are poorly served with a fair number of inferior products that need upgrading if you have any chance of success. I best get off my soap box.

          Cheers, and thank you.

          Alan

          ps. Just made a few adjustments to my web site after this lesson
          http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com
          It makes it a bit neater. Still not right though.

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Bruce,

            Really nice work and great help for all those interested in building a website.
            Here is a nice (and free) little program to build javascript photalbums (many layouts posible):
            http://jalbum.net/history.jsp

            Have fun ad keep up with the "classes"!

            Gai...

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              alan wood
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              Hi Modelhead,
              Alan...Let me know your thoughts on navigation. I'm guessing you are not sure on direction.
              Reply.
              If I had a choice, and I’m not sure if this is possible within Sitebuilder, I would prefer a navigation bar, so that when I placed my mouse over it, gave me a menu. If that was possible, that would be, my choice. In that way I could have under the tools, navigation bar on my web site, marking knife, dovetail marking knife, marking gauge, etc etc.

              you said
              The scrolling pictures are good....just one tip...you don't need a vertical scroll bar. It has appeared because the page you built for the iframe is taller than the iframe. If you make the page the same size or smaller than the iframe the scroll bars will disappear.
              Reply, thanks for that.

              You can also remove the scroll bars completely.
              Reply. Right I will look into how to do that from the help menu.

              and either
              build separate files to call to each iframe via regular link
              reply I think I know what you mean. I’ll work on that today.

              or you can place named anchors as I have mentioned earlier.
              reply not sure how to do that. I will check in the help menu.

              I need instructions from you on the direction you would like to take with the page from here.

              reply If you can give me some time to explore a bit more on the above topics it would be helpful please. The boss is back and she needs a bit of time on the computer.

              cheers,
              Thanks
              Alan.

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              • EdsonE Offline
                Edson
                last edited by

                @gaieus said:

                Here is a nice (and free) little program to build javascript photalbums (many layouts posible):
                http://jalbum.net/history.jsp

                would it be possible to integrate it with a website like the ones we are creating under bruce's guidance?

                edson

                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                • EdsonE Offline
                  Edson
                  last edited by

                  hi bruce,

                  i apologise for not answering before. i had to take care of some academic unfinished business but here i am. i decided to stick to the last lesson you posted, and so i have a number of questions about that before i try to do it.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  What we are going to do is build a separate web page to fit into an iframe.

                  The first thing to do is create the page of course and you can just reference this new page in the iframe dialogue as you position it on your main page.

                  Then just drop the iframe page into the middle of the main page and surround it with a layer of navigation to the left of the main page as in the project list at the side of the slide show.

                  You will have a separate iframe page for each of your projects. All of these iframe pages
                  (pages with iframes embedded) can then be referenced from the outer nav frame.

                  i understand the principle behind the idea but do not quite get how it is going to be done.
                  i get the relation between iframe and project page, between iframe and the main page, and between the iframe and the nav frame outside it. my main doubt/question is: what is the structure of each page that will be referenced in the iframe dialogue? how is it going to contain all the pictures of a project? where would they be? on this seoarate page? on the server?

                  as i finished reading the part on named anchors i had the same feeling as before: i understand it but do not know where to put it. fortunately you came to my rescue by mentioning that it could not be inserted into sitebuilder just like that.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  So the big question for you all is would you like me to get myself an editor (that we can share) and then go ahead and launch a lesson on the use of the tag……
                  Or, should I just go get us some canned code……..sorry to leave you this way but I need your help with this.

                    i would very much like to learn how to deal with the tag code. i am afraid using canned code will be ok in the short run but will leave my hands tied as to future changes to the site. thus if it is ok with you please get the editor and let's do a lesson on the use of tags.
                  

                  i always prefer learning how to fish than being given the fish as a gift, if you know what i mean.

                  and, once more, my appreciation for all you are doing for us.

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    @edson said:

                    would it be possible to integrate it with a website like the ones we are creating under bruce's guidance?

                    edson

                    Sure, it creates html files (and all the necessary folders for the images, thumbnails etc) that you just upload to your site.
                    However I haven't followed how this sitebuilder works - I mean whether you can custom-upload your own pages/files to the server or "just" use whatever is built into the sitebuilder software.

                    Gai...

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                      alan wood
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                      Hi Modelhead,
                      I would be very happy to travel along the same path as Edson.
                      Having viewed Edson's pages, it has given me the idea that on my tools navigation bar, it will lead me to a page, full of the links to all the 'tool' subjects that i need to talk about.
                      That will be a much clearer way, I believe, to nagivate around my site.
                      Great idea, thanks Edson.
                      Thank you Bruce
                      cheers
                      Alan.

                      PS having viewed loads of sites for ideas, and I believe we are travelling along the right path, and getting there. At the time of this posting the site has not been updated.

                      http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com

                      updated 1057hrs

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                      • EdsonE Offline
                        Edson
                        last edited by

                        @gaieus said:

                        Sure, it creates html files (and all the necessary folders for the images, thumbnails etc) that you just upload to your site.
                        However I haven't followed how this sitebuilder works - I mean whether you can custom-upload your own pages/files to the server or "just" use whatever is built into the sitebuilder software.

                        gai, at any rate, my plan is to get the site running with sitebuilder and then export it to dreamweaver so that i can host it anywhere and insert all sorts of elements like the one you are suggesting.

                        cheers.

                        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Edson,

                          Cool. That is the final goal anyway.
                          I have a whole lot of "web developer tools" (websites bookmarked) which I have already promised Bruce to share here. During the week-end I'll put together a little "package" with some very basic descriptions where you can find what and post it in this topic if you guys don't mind me interfere...

                          Gai...

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                          • EdsonE Offline
                            Edson
                            last edited by

                            bruce,

                            in order to better orientate the viewer i would like for some elements of the nav bars to be highlighted in some way (underlined, or in bold, or in a diffrent color, etc) to tell people where they are on the site. to exemplify this i posted a picture of the site in which the cyan rectangles indicate that the viewer would on the portfolio section, architecture sub-section, viewing project X.

                            is this possible to do with the resoursces we have?

                            cheers.


                            highlights.png

                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Some "webmasters' resources":

                              Free buttonsets:
                              http://www.freebuttons.com/index.php?page=freebuttons&buttonName=BlurMetal&color=8
                              http://www.prodraw.net/button/buttons1.htm
                              http://www.webdesignhelper.co.uk/design_elements/web_graphics/buttons_113to140/buttons_113to140.shtml

                              Unicode charts:
                              http://www.unicode.org/charts/

                              Link validator (Xenu)
                              http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html
                              CSS editor (go down the page for the "lite" version)
                              http://www.newsgator.com/Individuals/TopStyle/Default.aspx

                              HTML
                              Getting started:
                              http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/

                              Code tutorial
                              http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/

                              Some more tuts
                              http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/

                              Another "introduction"
                              http://www.case.edu/help/introHTML/toc.html

                              Soma other basics
                              http://www.sparklist.com/resources/tools/htmlbasics.html

                              Maybe this is the best of all
                              http://www.w3schools.com/html/

                              Javascript collections*
                              http://www.123webmaster.com/Scripts/Java_and_Javascript/
                              http://www.dynamicdrive.com/
                              http://www.hotscripts.com/JavaScript/ (!)

                              And so on, but I think this is enough for now.
                              I'll get back with more links & resources later.


                              *Always check if a javascript works at laest on all major browsers!

                              Gai...

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                              • EdsonE Offline
                                Edson
                                last edited by

                                hi, bruce.

                                all of us have other stuff to do too and i (we?) am not in such a hurry. your contribution has been great so far. thus, take your time. it will be fine whenever you find time to do it.

                                meanwhile, i got my hands on a couple of training videos on dreamweaver cs3 which are amazingly instructive.

                                regards.

                                edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                  alan wood
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Bruce,
                                  I will second Edson's comments. I have plenty to work on ,and any time you are free, I will take up the lessons again, when you have time.
                                  Thank you
                                  Alan

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                                  • GaieusG Offline
                                    Gaieus
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi all websitebuilders,

                                    I just checked "Givaway of the day" website and found that they have "ConceptDraw WebWawe" for free today (for another 16 hs to download adn install).

                                    The product is 300 bucks otherwise so it must be a powerful one (I haven't tried it yet just downloaded).

                                    Also, read carefully the TOS.

                                    Have fun;


                                    Edit:
                                    Ah well, the link

                                    Gai...

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                                      alan wood
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Gaieus,
                                      thanks for that
                                      Alan

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                                        alan wood
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Modehead, 😆
                                        Great to see you here.
                                        Thanks for this lesson.
                                        This feature could have a great deal of use in my project, allowing the viewer to have a 'brief overview' of what I am going to cover in a particular teach package.
                                        This will keep me busy for tomorrow.
                                        Thanks
                                        Alan 😆

                                        http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com

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                                        • EdsonE Offline
                                          Edson
                                          last edited by

                                          thanks, bruce. i will have a look a it tomorrow morning. a presentation rush in the last 48 hs left me almost brainless.

                                          cheers.

                                          edson

                                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                          • EdsonE Offline
                                            Edson
                                            last edited by

                                            bruce, i am glad you included that caution note. i will wait a bit for the cut and paste.

                                            cheers.

                                            edson

                                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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