Material by Layer in Ruby

todd burch

Materials don't have layers. Faces and edges have layers and materials.

Todd

Al Hart

@unknownuser said:

Materials don't have layers. Faces and edges have layers and materials.

Todd

That is true. However they have a thing that acts a lot like a material in the Color by Layer dialog:

We are able to extract the texture image from this, but not the size.

We are able get both using Skp_Reader (C++ code), but cannot access them from Ruby.

RickW

Materials don't have layers, but layers can have materials.

Unfortunately, Google has not provided ruby access to the layer material.

TIG

I wrote this work around a while ago... It does it by making an obj export of the model set 'material by layer' temporarily, and then using its mtl file to get the layers and colours... that's as good as it gets... You could use the data from the temp file rather than write a csv ? You could even export it all to a temp folder and delete that at the end if required ?

ListLayerColors.rb

todd burch

Al, since you can get to the data you need via the SDK, write a C/C++ extension that returns the data to Ruby.

Todd

Al Hart

We are going to write an Exporter, but that has the disadvantage of only working with the Professional version of SketchUp.

We can write an external program using SKP_Reader, but that will require that the user save the current model before rendering it.

We would like to get this information from the current model, in the free version, without saving the model. (If possible)

@unknownuser said:

Al, since you can get to the data you need via the SDK, write a C/C++ extension that returns the data to Ruby.

Todd

todd burch

What's wrong with this agonizing approach:

create an "array entry" for every layer
For every group/component/entity...
determine if it has any material associated with it
if so, for it's layer "array entry", add the material to it as a subarray
When done, you have an array of layers, and each layer records the materials in it.

From the first post, I thought I was missing the obvious. This is the obvious approach.

Since materials don't have layers, but objects have both materials and layers, you just have to run the objects and make your own list. From my perspective, no big deal - it's just not a quick call to any singe method to get it done.

Todd

tbd

pitty that Sketchup.active_model.sapidoc is not available in SU6 anymore

Al Hart

Shoot!

This was a good idea TIG, but the .mtl file does not contain the texture size information.

@unknownuser said:

Alias OBJ Material File

Exported from SketchUp, (c) 2000-2006 Google, Inc.

newmtl Layer0
Ka 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
Kd 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
Ks 0.330000 0.330000 0.330000
map_Kd test4/Layer0.jpg

Kd is the color, but when I change the texture size and export it again, nothing in the file changes to match it.

I guess we'll have to write our own exporter...

@tig said:

I wrote this work around a while ago... It does it by making an obj export of the model set 'material by layer' temporarily, and then using its mtl file to get the layers and colours... that's as good as it gets... You could use the data from the temp file rather than write a csv ? You could even export it all to a temp folder and delete that at the end if required ?

Al Hart

We will look at this again, but I believe the group/component/entity will report its own material and not the "Color by Layer" material.

But we will try it. It would be a shame to miss the obvious answer.

TextureHelper lets us save copies of the texture file for the layer, but neither Texture Helper of UVQHelper seem to let us access the texture size.

@unknownuser said:

What's wrong with this agonizing approach:

create an "array entry" for every layer

For every group/component/entity...

determine if it has any material associated with it

if so, for it's layer "array entry", add the material to it as a subarray
When done, you have an array of layers, and each layer records the materials in it.

From the first post, I thought I was missing the obvious. This is the obvious approach.

Since materials don't have layers, but objects have both materials and layers, you just have to run the objects and make your own list. From my perspective, no big deal - it's just not a quick call to any singe method to get it done.

Todd