Starbucks now also in Holland

[jeff hammond]

@ross macintosh said:

'Tim Hortons'

hey i know that place.. i did a job in vancouver a couple of years ago and there was one right next to my hotel.. i got my coffee and b-e-c bagel there every morning..

[linea]

I love coffee, in my old job, we lived on it. Since I left that job I can't drink it any more because when I wasn't having 4 or 5 cups a day I started to get migraines. I think I was getting withdrawal sympytoms. So I went cold turkey.

[John Sayers]

stramgely enough my local corner store sells locally grown coffee that has won awards world wide It's way too expensive for me so I buy another aussie product made in Sydney and more within my price range.

I use a plunger (In the US it's called a French Press)

[Anssi]

According to the statistics I found, Finns are the biggest coffee drinkers in the world. The amount of coffee consumed would amount to 160 liters per capita per annum - so the average adult drinks something like 6 cups a day. Our coffee is usually stronger than the American variant, but still no espresso. No Starbucks here that I know, but other coffee houses of the same type have started to appear in the larger "cities"

Anssi

[Ross Macintosh]

Man you Finns need to cut back!

[Alan Fraser]

Nah, they need it to counteract all the vodka.

[Edson]

unlike you, coen, my recollection of starbucks' coffee is of a 2nd-rate, watered down beverage. apart from that, i do not like having the same store spread all over the globe. is starbucks the macdonald's of coffee?

here where i live there are many places that sell great, strong coffee, and they are all different from each other.

[mateo soletic]

I have never tried starbucks' coffee. Have I missed something?
I preffer Italian expresso , short and strong.Not in many places they
make it like in Italy. Its something to do with the water in combination
with the adjustment of the machine. So I have been told.

Yes , Cafe Nero in London is ok. Italian recepy.

[John Sayers]

Gloria Jeans coffee bars are spreading in Australia - never tried it though.

[jeff hammond]

@edson said:

is starbucks the macdonald's of coffee?

i definitely wouldn't say that.. mcdonald's sells low quality food where as starbucks is actually putting out a good product.. many will say they over-roast their beans but that's where opinion and taste come into play.. regardless, the actual berries are good from the start and it's not like they are trying to polish a turd..

7eleven, dunkin donuts (and many others) on the other hand sell a lot of flavored coffee (hazelnut, vanilla, etc) which helps disguise the bad beans and/or allows many would be non coffee drinkers to enjoy a cup.. they've taken that a step further now and are selling 'bold' coffee.. the problem is, it's not like they are using a higher quality bean, they are just applying a 'bold roast' flavor to their normal stuff in the same manner they would do hazelnut..

@unknownuser said:

@unknownuser said:

i've never been to holland but i've always imagined great little coffee shops there.. no?

Yes, but the term 'coffee shop' here means pot shop, a place where you can smoke weed.
A real coffee shop is just called a café.

yeah, i know about you guys.. i was trying to make a little joke..

[Jackson]

I wouldn't buy anything from Starbucks- they've virtually monopolised the entire centre of Edinburgh, driving all the independant cafes out of business and then quickly snapping up the empty premises. Shame on them.