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    Alan Fraser
    last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 09:28

    I prefer Costa or Cafe Nero in the UK. However, we should not forget that our favourite piece of software is developed right above a You-know-what. 😉

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      pmiller
      last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 15:12

      @solo said:

      Burned coffee!

      At the price of your first born!

      I used to think so too, but now have come to drink only Starbucks (at home too). Perhaps they have some secret ingredient that conditions our taste buds.

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        jeff hammond
        last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 16:18

        @remus said:

        What do you men by a 'regular american style brew'? im obivously under the false impression that there is only instant coffe and ground coffe...

        i mean ground.. brewed drip style..
        the reason i say american style is because the u.s. is the only place i've ever been (and i've been to 6 continents) where if you ask for coffee, you're gonna get exactly that.. everywhere else i'll get instant coffee or espresso..

        there's even a lot of places in the u.s. (cuban,vietnamese,etc. communities or restaurants) where you have to order a cafe americano if you want something other than a small dose of potent mud.. americano being espresso mixed with hot water..

        [edit] - that said, i rarely ever go with an americano.. if i'm in miami, i'll always order a cortadito.. that's a cafecito (espresso made with sugar instead of sugar being added to espresso) with a little steamed milk on top.. highly recommended..

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          solo
          last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 16:40

          The 'American' (United states) way of making coffee is actually correctly termed Percolate.

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            Ross Macintosh
            last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 17:01

            Coen -- I'm happy for you that you can now get the coffee you love so much more conveniently.

            Here in Canada we do have Starbucks but only in the bigger urban areas. They have a relatively small share of the coffee-to-go market here. Our big coffee retailer is 'Tim Hortons' which has something like 2,800 outlets and over a billion dollars in yearly sales. That's a lot of coffee in a country with only 33 million in population (roughly double the population of the Netherlands). Just imagine how common 'Tim Hortons' coffee shops would be if you had 1,400 of them in Holland! Practically all Tim Horton outlets here have drive-thru windows so many Canadians can't drive anywhere without stopping for some 'Timmies'. The coffee is the straight-forward drip-brewed kind Jeff described as 'American'. A medium-sized cup is about $1.35 and is considered very affordable compared with Starbuck's prices. The amazing thing about Tim Hortons is they've figured out how to make coffee taste the same consistently. Go to any of those 2,800 stores and the coffee will always be the same year in and year out. Canadians count on Tim's!

            Regards, Ross

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              jeff hammond
              last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 17:13

              @solo said:

              The 'American' (United states) way of making coffee is actually correctly termed Percolate.

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              gotcha.. i wouldn't even know that term if it weren't for my great grandmother's percolator... uses one to this day.. old school 😄

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                jeff hammond
                last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 17:17

                @ross macintosh said:

                'Tim Hortons'

                hey i know that place.. i did a job in vancouver a couple of years ago and there was one right next to my hotel.. i got my coffee and b-e-c bagel there every morning..

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                  linea
                  last edited by 23 Feb 2008, 18:14

                  I love coffee, in my old job, we lived on it. Since I left that job I can't drink it any more because when I wasn't having 4 or 5 cups a day I started to get migraines. I think I was getting withdrawal sympytoms. So I went cold turkey.

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                    John Sayers
                    last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 09:59

                    stramgely enough my local corner store sells locally grown coffee that has won awards world wide 😉 It's way too expensive for me so I buy another aussie product made in Sydney and more within my price range.

                    I use a plunger (In the US it's called a French Press)

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                      Anssi
                      last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 11:37

                      According to the statistics I found, Finns are the biggest coffee drinkers in the world. The amount of coffee consumed would amount to 160 liters per capita per annum - so the average adult drinks something like 6 cups a day. Our coffee is usually stronger than the American variant, but still no espresso. No Starbucks here that I know, but other coffee houses of the same type have started to appear in the larger "cities"

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                        Ross Macintosh
                        last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 11:58

                        Man you Finns need to cut back!

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                          Alan Fraser
                          last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 12:26

                          Nah, they need it to counteract all the vodka. 😉

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                            Edson
                            last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 14:56

                            unlike you, coen, my recollection of starbucks' coffee is of a 2nd-rate, watered down beverage. apart from that, i do not like having the same store spread all over the globe. is starbucks the macdonald's of coffee?

                            here where i live there are many places that sell great, strong coffee, and they are all different from each other.

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                              mateo soletic
                              last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 15:57

                              I have never tried starbucks' coffee. Have I missed something?
                              I preffer Italian expresso , short and strong.Not in many places they
                              make it like in Italy. Its something to do with the water in combination
                              with the adjustment of the machine. So I have been told.

                              Yes , Cafe Nero in London is ok. Italian recepy.

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                                John Sayers
                                last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 20:30

                                Gloria Jeans coffee bars are spreading in Australia - never tried it though.

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                                  jeff hammond
                                  last edited by 24 Feb 2008, 20:56

                                  @edson said:

                                  is starbucks the macdonald's of coffee?

                                  i definitely wouldn't say that.. mcdonald's sells low quality food where as starbucks is actually putting out a good product.. many will say they over-roast their beans but that's where opinion and taste come into play.. regardless, the actual berries are good from the start and it's not like they are trying to polish a turd..

                                  7eleven, dunkin donuts (and many others) on the other hand sell a lot of flavored coffee (hazelnut, vanilla, etc) which helps disguise the bad beans and/or allows many would be non coffee drinkers to enjoy a cup.. they've taken that a step further now and are selling 'bold' coffee.. the problem is, it's not like they are using a higher quality bean, they are just applying a 'bold roast' flavor to their normal stuff in the same manner they would do hazelnut..

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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  i've never been to holland but i've always imagined great little coffee shops there.. 😄 no?

                                  Yes, but the term 'coffee shop' here means pot shop, a place where you can smoke weed.
                                  A real coffee shop is just called a café.

                                  yeah, i know about you guys.. i was trying to make a little joke..

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                                    Jackson
                                    last edited by 26 Feb 2008, 13:11

                                    I wouldn't buy anything from Starbucks- they've virtually monopolised the entire centre of Edinburgh, driving all the independant cafes out of business and then quickly snapping up the empty premises. Shame on them. 😠

                                    Jackson

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