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  • E Offline
    Edson
    last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:38

    bruce,

    now i have 2 projects set up, each one using a kind of navigation. the sevillha project uses the method of assigning a picture to each number. in the casa_RAC project i tested the previous/next way of moving around.

    one thing is bothering me: the opening page for the architectural projetcs shows a vertical list of items for one to choose from. i would like them to be aligned at the right but could not find where and how to do it. could you help me with that?

    cheers and thank you.

    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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      Edson
      last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:38

      another thing. my imagens take some time to appear even though my machine is quite powerful. how do they look to you? are they too heavy?

      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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        Edson
        last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:39

        @krisidious said:

        I would like to rename this Thread...
        to Blogs and Website Building and move it to the misc. area in tutorials?

        what does everyone think of that?

        ok with me.

        edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
        http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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          alan wood
          last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:39

          Hi Kris,
          Okay with me,
          cheers
          Alan
          PS I'll be getting on with my lesson soon. 😉

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            Krisidious
            last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:40

            no it's just me and my idea... just let me know when you can... no hurry... I take you mean links to the thread? if so Coen has a way to redirect them, automatically...

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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              dylan
              last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:40

              Yes moving it at some point would be a good idea, but while it is still so active, I think it should stay here for now imo.

              http://dmdarchitecture.co.uk/

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                alan wood
                last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:41

                Hi Modelhead,
                Finished that lesson thanks.

                I know that my result is not very tidy, I know that I need to reposition the navigation bars a pixel this way or that.

                results can be seen at
                http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com/complexnavigation/project1/compxnav2.html

                thank you

                cheers

                Alan

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                  Edson
                  last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:41

                  hi alan,

                  this looks quite nice. you put together the two ways of navigation, which can be helpful. i did one study for each.

                  and the SU models are great! keep it up.

                  cheers.

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                    alan wood
                    last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:41

                    Hi Edson,
                    Thanks for that. I think we are both heading alone the right path.
                    Not sure yet if the previous, next buttons will be used that much, but I thought I would do the exercise, just to understand how it was done.

                    A quicker way, I think, of adding a background colour, rather than adding a coloured text box behind the numbers, is to add an active image, under customise the navigation bars. Problem is, when I was doing the exercise I could not find a colour on my computer do download.

                    So I'm going to have a look for one now.

                    cheers
                    Alan

                    Found it under clipart. So I now have two ways of doing that.

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                      Edson
                      last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:42

                      bruce,

                      playing with the iframes i realized that perhaps one of the reasons to use them is not to repeat tediously the same actions.

                      in order to do what i posted here last i had to do one complete page per image. multiply that for 20+ projects and it becomes lots of work. if i use an iframe i can have an outer page with the info that does not change while the images are located inside the iframe.

                      i am sure there must be more to it but is that assumption correct?

                      cheers.

                      edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                      http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:42

                        Edson,

                        Yes that's exactly one of the main things an iFrame is good for. Less work for the programmer on that end.
                        But also consider that when a visitor downloads your page, he/she only needs to download the main page once and only change the content of the iFrame. So it also improves browsing experience because they don't need to wait until the whole content downloads again (certainly there are some elements that are already in the cache of the browser though).

                        You just need to carefully size the content as well as the iFrame so there is no problem with viewing whatever is in there.

                        Gai...

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                          alan wood
                          last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:42

                          Hi Guys,
                          Now that I have this facility, I will be able to upgrade my web site so that it is much more user friendly, much better than scrolling down and sideways.
                          cheers
                          Alan.

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                            Gaieus
                            last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:43

                            Well, Bruce, congrats!
                            I might start some crazy topic about reconstructional archaeology (or archaeological reconstruction) or something myself to get attention!
                            But then all of you have to contribute to that topic, too!
                            😄

                            Gai...

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                              Edson
                              last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:44

                              hey, bruce, this is great news. i am glad i am part of this thread.

                              i am more than happy that your generosity to us is being rewarded. and in the best possible way, too: you never intended it to happen but people found you and offered you a job. it only comes to prove that those who behave well sooner or later will have good things happen to them. i am not preaching here, this is a fact of life.

                              so, i wish you the best in this new task you are undertaking and am sure you will help them a lot.

                              keep us informed of your progress there, if you may.

                              cheers.

                              edson

                              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                rsw
                                last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:45

                                I have sort of followed this topic for a while now as i'm currently building a website for myself and was looking out for anything useful which might help me. I've not used the yahoo site builder thing before, so i've no idea what its like. From wha i can tell its a wysiwyg editor. But i couldn't help noticing that some of the pages you've made aren't valid html/css.

                                Personally if its a business' site I think its important for it to be valid, as well as being semantically correct, ie if you have a paragraph, use a paragraph element. If you have a list, use a list item element and using tables for tabulating data, and not structuring the page. And ideally presentation should be separate from structure, ie css separated into a css file.

                                done correctly everyone can access and read your page, whether its from a desktop pc, handheld device, screen reader (for vision impaired users) or a text browser such as lynx.

                                Not sure how important you think it is, or whether you've considered this already , but thought i'd mention it.

                                Richard

                                http://img.userbars.pl/98/19554.png

                                http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/671GUAMDUDE/Animated---User-Green.gif

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                                  alan wood
                                  last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:45

                                  Hi Bruce,
                                  Well is that not greatnews. As Edson commented, you do get paid back in life for the good that is done, and I'm so happy that you are excited at what you can achieve in your new post.

                                  A quote I liked to use at work was 'Aiming to deliver a quality of service second to none', something that I was aiming for each day.

                                  Without doubt, that is what you have delivered here, and your new employers and have bagged a 'good un'

                                  cheers

                                  Alan.
                                  PS. Glad the owner of the company liked my stuff. What is out there at present is just a draft of some of the chapters. It will get better.

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                                    Edson
                                    last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:50

                                    hi richard,

                                    thanks for the input. we are assuming sitebuider writes into code whatever we do graphically. as far as we know everyone who tried to acess our sites to be had success.

                                    could you elaborate a bit more on the non valid to html/css thing? we are all concerned about making our sites the most accessible we possibly can so you may have a valid point there.

                                    as for myself, my intention is to get my site up and running with sitebuilder and then move it to dreamweaver so that i can have more flexibility to manage it.

                                    cheers.

                                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                      rsw
                                      last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:50

                                      Put your sites through http://validator.w3.org/ and http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ and you'll see the non valid html that the pages have. This isn't to say that your pages are unreadable or inaccessible, in fact most of the time people probably won't even notice (i'm just fussy!)

                                      I've just started building my wordpress based site, and having the presentation in a separate file means that if i need to tweak the design slightly etc only one file has to be altered to change the style of the whole site (no matter how many pages there are).

                                      have a look at http://www.csszengarden.com/ for good examples of design and using css to control presentation.

                                      don't get me wrong i'm not criticising anyones work here, and from what i've seen there is some good work being produced, besides i'm no expert in html/css either!

                                      Richard

                                      http://img.userbars.pl/98/19554.png

                                      http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/671GUAMDUDE/Animated---User-Green.gif

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                                        alan wood
                                        last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:51

                                        Hi Guys,
                                        Repeated the last lesson is a format that could be handy for me one day.
                                        It can be found here
                                        http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com/compnav/p2/p2.html

                                        cheers
                                        Alan
                                        bit of a glitch there. I tried to upload this via the publish button but that didn't work. Went to the yahoo site and uploaded files that way. I'll try again.
                                        still locking up when I am trying to publish through sitebuilder.
                                        Back to the drawing board.

                                        1848hrs. I'll work on that one again

                                        Sorted.

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                                          alan wood
                                          last edited by 12 Feb 2008, 14:51

                                          Hi Modelhead,
                                          I've updated my latest lesson to include 10 images.
                                          The reason why I have problems recently was because I had changed my folder name from complexnavigation to compnav.
                                          and I sending the wrong link.

                                          When do you start with with your new employer.

                                          cheers
                                          Alan

                                          http://www.hand-cut-dovetails.com/compnav/p2/p2.html

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