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    Fletch
    last edited by 14 Dec 2007, 16:39

    SIMPLE FIXES TO THE GUI DESPERATELY NEEDED FOR SU7:

    ability to resize the %$#@ scene dialog. If you have more than 7 scenes, EVERY TIME you change a name of a scene in the dialog as it is now, when you hit <enter> it jumps back up to the top of the list. Some animations I have more like 40 scenes! Now I have to manually scroll all the way back down the list... 😞

    Keep my focus on the model window PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. It drives me absolutely in%$#@sane that every time I go to paint a material the focus of my keyboard input jumps to my materials pallette. So after choosing the paintbucket, if I hit any of my 100 shortcuts it actually starts changing the name of the material or the size of the .jpg of the material or some $#@% thing in the material editor. 😑 😑 😑

    I have a quad core Boxx and a $900 top of the line Vid. card. When I go to save a .jpg w/AA at 2800px with Shadows on, and all sorts of geometry, textures, etc... it can take up to 2mins to export the .jpg πŸ˜’ So I echo all other comments on multi-core processing support for rendering animations and stills...

    sorry for the anger... I've just finally had enough today... some days I can spend more than 12hrs/day on SU for many days in a row... so these things are very important little things that really kill an experience.

    Fletch
    Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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      tomsdesk
      last edited by 14 Dec 2007, 18:20

      Fletch...
      Dead on with #2 (pun demanded :`) drives me nuts!!!
      #3 is more of an SU6 thing (I mainly use 5, but have been exporting some out of 6 for the sketchy edges: a 30sec export in 5 will take twice as long, at least)...so I sure hope they fix what they broke!!!
      #1...as little as I've used 6 this has still been a pain!

      Hoping for a 7 as good as 5...

      http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
      2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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        Unknown Target
        last edited by 17 Dec 2007, 13:41

        PLEASE give us animation and organic modeling support! Beveling edges would also be great. Also, optimization for handling high-poly models with large textures would be a great addition as well.

        Also, for the "Follow Me" tool, could we have it where we can assign multiple lines on one face to multiple lines. So for instance, if I want to extrude a face along a curved line, I c an also set the bottom of that face to extrude along a straight line, so I can actually create the top and bottom of the shape. Does that make sense?

        EDIT: You know what would be amazing as well? Being able to extrude lines. Let's say I create a complex 2D line and want to create a 3D object, but don't want to close the shape. I'd love to be able to pull the line out like I was push/pulling a face.

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          Boogster
          last edited by 25 Jan 2008, 04:56

          @unknownuser said:

          I have no idea what's going to be in SketchUp V7. My money would be on these features:

          • Features that are aimed at the populace and that make it easy for them to populate Google Earth
          • Annoyances and bug fixes fixed
          • Dumbing down hard to use features
          • Dare I suppose it.... lockable .skp files
          • Fat Faces perhaps

          Todd

          And don't forget the 3D Warehouse that is needed to be supported from other browsers, such as Firefox. It only supports IE. πŸŽ‰

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            CraigD
            last edited by 25 Jan 2008, 05:06

            @boogster said:

            @unknownuser said:

            I have no idea what's going to be in SketchUp V7. My money would be on these features:

            • Features that are aimed at the populace and that make it easy for them to populate Google Earth
            • Annoyances and bug fixes fixed
            • Dumbing down hard to use features
            • Dare I suppose it.... lockable .skp files
            • Fat Faces perhaps

            Todd

            And don't forget the 3D Warehouse that is needed to be supported from other browsers, such as Firefox. It only supports IE. πŸŽ‰

            Noted. A workaround is that you can access the 3D Warehouse via Firefox (or Camino) and upload and download to your heart's content. We've added an Upload button to the 3D Warehouse...all you have to do is log in.

            Hope that helps!

            And all of the other feedback is great! Keep it coming! We're listening! πŸ˜„

            Cheers,

             - CraigD
            

            Google SketchUp

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              alexander
              last edited by 25 Jan 2008, 19:22

              What i like to see in a new version is:
              an easy way to get from a 3d the 2d vieuws in layout
              Like iso / rightvieuw / topvieuw etc. and a easy way to do the measuring in the same.

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                crc
                last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 00:31

                Most things I think should be addressed have been mentioned here; ie, higher poly-count modeling, better curves, stronger "engine" underneath with fewer crashes.

                A few tweaks I'd like to see that I've been trying to keep track of in my daily workflow:

                edit:DOH!

                -ability to view components/materials with the thumbnail and the name of the component beneath it. I know that if you hover over it, the name pops up, but this doesn't work that well, sometimes it hangs on one of the components displaying it's name even when I move to another component and sometimes it takes a long time to show the name. just doesn't work that well.
                also, ability to sort alphabetically/numerically in this list.

                -ability to drag and drop the scene tabs where I want them, and to double-click on a scene tab to rename it. I know about the scene dialog box, but why go to a dialog box what could be done right in the modeling window? also, you have to sit there clicking the up and down arrows to re-order the scenes. Sometimes I have quite a few scene in my models.

                -I am a big fan of the Outliner and would like to see it enhanced. Not sure exactly what those enhancements would be πŸ˜„ but it is a great tool!!

                -I'd also like to see the "Flip Along" command change with the axes of the component. As it is, it stays with the global axes.

                • don't see a need for a renderer, there are some great ones out there that work well with SKP!

                These are just a few, I'm sure there are more. πŸ’š

                http://www.motoclip.net

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                  cdubea
                  last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 01:03

                  I would like to see local help. I do a lot of work not attached to an internet connection and this makes help a non-entity.

                  chris

                  http://www.dubea.org/chris_small.jpg

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                    Tim Danaher
                    last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 18:10

                    Support for multi-threaded OpenGL:

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                    Arstechnica and InsideMacGames write about some OpenGL optimizations which were privately announced at WWDC two weeks ago. According to the...

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                    I'm hoping this would make the glacial animation export faster...

                    Support for 'baking' shadows into a material's texture. It would get rid of the reverse-flickering shadows problem. I started a thread about it here:

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                    Fix the Β’Β’βˆžβˆžΒΆβ€’Βͺβ„’β„’ Mac Outliner. It blows chunks.

                    Cheers,

                    Tim

                    http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                      solo
                      last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 18:24

                      Did I mention tools for organic modeling? πŸ˜‰

                      NURBS!!!

                      All I ask is for nurbs and higher poly support for them.

                      http://www.solos-art.com

                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                        remus
                        last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 18:27

                        hahaha, 'all i ask for is NURBS', you make it sound so easy solo ❗ not that i know anything about programing...

                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                          Tim Danaher
                          last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 18:41

                          Solo --

                          another thing about 'Fat Faces', is that a component would cut both faces of a wall automatically...

                          Cheers,

                          Tim

                          http://vizarch.blogspot.com

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                            solo
                            last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 18:46

                            I have heard much talk about 'fat faces' but do not know what it's all about, do you have more info for me?

                            LO @ discussing fat faces and then seeing your avatar.

                            http://www.solos-art.com

                            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                              remus
                              last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 19:24

                              feel free to correct me anyone, but as far as i know, fat faces are basically solids, so not made up of lines and faces, as is the case for everythign else in SU.

                              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                Gaieus
                                last edited by 26 Jan 2008, 19:28

                                Well, as I read about an article of a 2006 basecamp (if I'm not mistaken), they have been planning this for a while. But in SU it wouldn't be achieved as real solids, as I read, but by assigning thickness to certain materials.

                                I don't know however at what stage this development is. Then it was still a discussion about the (future) release of SU6. Certainly not every new idea and wish can be incorporated into every new release.

                                Gai...

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                                  Gjenio
                                  last edited by 29 Jan 2008, 14:01

                                  @solo said:

                                  Did I mention tools for organic modeling? πŸ˜‰

                                  NURBS!!!

                                  All I ask is for nurbs and higher poly support for them.

                                  Totally agree with SOLO.
                                  In another tread I wrote the following:

                                  Sketchup 7 whishlist:
                                  1- Improving dwg export: something to recognize arcs and circles in your model and trasform them in true arcs or circles. And the possibility to export shadows as hatches (so...vector shadows)
                                  2- Improving section tool with something that can manage edge thikness and hatches (more than SectionCutFace.rb)
                                  3- Layout must be somthing like AutoCAD Layout sheet with possibility to insert dimensions and to edit your 2d drawing accurately
                                  4- Ability to join together edges and trasform them in a continius path that can be modifyied and stretched like a Bezier.
                                  5- In sandbox tools the smoove tool would have the same capabilityies of the sphere modelling tool in MODO (a 3d modelling sw)

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                                    Fletch
                                    last edited by 18 Feb 2008, 22:13

                                    Advanced Scene Organizer: Ideally a complete overhaul and extreme expansion of SU's scene dialog capabilies is in order, IMHO.

                                    I'd really like to have, at very least, the ability to have rows of tabs at the top of my SU window, instead of just one row... just drag the existing tab row down, and it shifts up a second, third, fourth, however many rows you want of scene tabs, then you could select one or groups of tabs and drag-n-drop them to where you want them. I'd like to also select muliple scenes to rename them, yet keep a number before or after them... Entry1,2,3,4,5... Corridor1,2,3,4,5... etc. Multiple Scene editability (change all selected scene's camera FOV, change the animation settings for a selected scene or for all selected scenes.
                                    I'm animating a building at the intersection of 3 highways and I have these long animation paths along each highway showing what the building views looks like... and SU's scene dialog only lets me see 7 at a time and forces the view of the scene names back to the top after changing a single scene name. πŸ˜’

                                    Fletch
                                    Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                      Alan Fraser
                                      last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 06:32

                                      I would be very surprised to see Fat Faces in V7...not unless they have managed to achieve a breakthrough in another direction. Talking to what was still @Last, before V6 came out, I was told that, jaw-droppingly impressive though David Vicknair's little baby was, development of the feature had hit a brick wall.

                                      Basically, it was parametric materials...interior surface, exterior surface and wall thickness. Paint it onto a surface that is exactly what you got, including the accommodation of any voids for windows, doors etc. The material...including maintaining the thickness...would automatically adjust itself if you edited the wall in any way.

                                      3D Figures
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                                      You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                                        remus
                                        last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 06:44

                                        Jus tot add another wish to the list, id really like to be able to use straight jpegs as materials rather than having to mess around importign them into a model and them savig them. It would save a lot of time and make creating bumpmaps/clipmaps for renderign a lot faster.

                                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                          Fletch
                                          last edited by 19 Feb 2008, 17:09

                                          remus, just check the correct radio button when you import the .jpg.
                                          or, you can drag and drop the jpg right onto a piece of geometry in your model.

                                          perhaps it's time to watch all the video tutorials again... you'll be surprised what you missed in there the first few times...

                                          Fletch
                                          Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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