Display cabinet

Gidon Yuval · 4 Dec 2007, 13:59

Hi y'all,
Here's a display cabinet I'm building for a client who has a gourmet chocolate shop. The unit will be made from Oak and will be stained a dark rich brown to go with the chocolates. The model is a tad heavy because the doors can open and the drawers slide in and out etc. I always build my models that way so that I can demonstrate the functionality of the unit to the client.
If it were at all possible I would gladly post some of his chocolates but I'm afraid you'll have to make do with the cabinet.
I hope someone finds this useful.
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alan wood · 4 Dec 2007, 14:03

Hi Gidon,
Lovely job. Is this mainly machine made or do you do a large amount of the work by hand. I enjoy both methods but purely as a hobby.
Thanks for posting
Alan.

Gidon Yuval · 4 Dec 2007, 14:04

Alan hi,
Actualy I don't do any of the fabrication anymore. I used to, for about 25 years. Today I am more of a consultant slash designer slash project manager. I'm the guy the architect or interior designer or client comes to to look over the concept and plans, then find the right workshop for the job and then make sure they do the job correctly and according to specs.
I'm so glad you like the piece.
That's a beautiful box, by the way. Did you model it in SU first?

RonS · 4 Dec 2007, 14:04

Very nice Gidon. Thank you

boofredlay · 4 Dec 2007, 14:05

Great model. Exellent work and those were mighty tasty, thanks... burp!

alan wood · 4 Dec 2007, 14:07

Hi Gidon,
I'm pretty new to Sketchup. Bought it last August so the box was
designed in 2d using Coreldraw. A very handy package for doing that type of stuff.
Alan.

Gidon Yuval · 4 Dec 2007, 14:09

@unknownuser said:

Eric that's so funny I spit my milk.....but you better say your sorry for messin up that fine model....put it back now ...come on, make it snappy.

and a fine model indeed ..I would love to render it and see that wood shine.

Go for it Modelhead!
I don't use (or indeed know how to use) any rendering software and only use SU textures so I'd love to see what you can do with this model.
I'm my client will be pretty thrilled as well!
Oh, and while you're at it, could you do the attached store front as well?
BTW, the display cabinet goes along the left wall as you walk in.
Thanks
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Gaieus · 4 Dec 2007, 14:12

Modelhead,

There should be something done with (probably) the refraction settings of the glass on the left. Look, it's braking the light in a very different way than all the other glasses - though maybe it is thicker than the rest? I don't know...

Otherwise looks great - especially for a "start" for the render!

Gaieus · 4 Dec 2007, 14:13

Cool, I see. yes, I often "experimen" like this myself as well to see what's going on...

alan wood · 4 Dec 2007, 14:14

Modelhead
I'm goint to enjoy this thead. The cabinet is coming to life. I need to skill up in this area.
I can start to smell the chocolates!!
Alan

Gaieus · 4 Dec 2007, 17:07

Yeah, I can see. Now it looks as if like there weren't glass in the front of the left part of the cabinet while the two other faces do not even let you see through. Are there different settings for the two parts? Well, then there should be two kinds of materials, too... Or one is just single faced while the other(s) is/are double faced?

boofredlay · 4 Dec 2007, 17:09

@unknownuser said:

I'm trying to get the glass right. I'm not used to rendering glass that has been extruded. I usually use one face only...

Why not just change the glass in SU to a single face and go from there? Or are you trying to preserve the model 100% intact?

Gaieus · 4 Dec 2007, 17:12

Modelhead,

Have you noticed that the front glasses were backfaces in the SU model? (At least in what I downloaded). No wonder they do not want to let light through!

I also started a quick test render with it (adding some wall and floor to get reflective lights)

Still I'm a beginner in KT...

@unknownuser said:

Why not just change the glass in SU to a single face and go from there? Or are you trying to preserve the model 100% intact?

Eric, that single face thing has never worked for me for some reason. The light then either gois in or comes out but never does the same. But again - I1m just learning this. Cannonball or Ross or some other guys are the "magicians".

Gidon Yuval · 4 Dec 2007, 17:13

You guys can't even begin to imagine how much I'm enjoying this! You really bring the unit to life. It's unbelievable!
By the way, the wood has to be stained a rich brown, almost Wenge.
Can you change the color of the wood when you do the renderings or do I have to do that on the model and re-post?

Gaieus, I'm half Hungarian. My mother is from Budapest. Is that near to where you live? You should taste her silvas gombots!

Gaieus · 4 Dec 2007, 17:15

@gidon said:

---Gaieus, I'm half Hungarian. My mother is from Budapest. Is that near to where you live? You should taste her silvas gombots!

Gidon: "szilvás gombóc"! But that's nothing to "szilvapálinka" (plum brandy...)!!!

RonS · 4 Dec 2007, 17:16

Modelhead,
I seen that the depth of nested groups are extreme (if you have to many nested groups it will not render right) . You might want to explode some of them, this is when you will see some of the faces are duplicated and in conflict with another, as in the glass in the top. I see in another post you already know about the reverse faces. Hope this helps little.

Gaieus · 4 Dec 2007, 17:17

Yeah, sure, I suffered a lot with the nested part of it (3 or 4 depth). Also, I experience some weird edges emerging (see the attached file above) that I couldn't see on ModelHead's render.

RonS · 4 Dec 2007, 17:18

I also seen that some of the glass has a texture to the backside of the same face. I would say explode to you get back to single groups and redo the glass. Do not group the whole model. Save with all single groups and reopen the model and send to render. You should be alright then.

Gidon Yuval · 4 Dec 2007, 17:20

Modelhead, I'm attaching a picture of Wenge wood. The finish is to be semi-gloss (50/50 gloss to matt).
Sorry if all the nested groups are a problem. When I was just starting out in SU I was traumatised by things sticking to one another and distorting etc. and I read Ross's artical about grouping everything and it became second nature. Normally the abundance of groups makes my life easier rather than more difficult. I find it makes my models extremely managable. Not using rendering software I had no Idea it would cause problems.
Sorry

charevir56 · 4 Dec 2007, 17:23

Gidon. Im newbie with SU, Rener & forum, i dont know if im repeating this post because i tray in two other opportunity, but i want you to say the Display cabinet is a nice model, i have fun rendering it in podium. I made some of your group as component and flipped in that way is more easy change texture, there are a good tutorials in go-2-school.com some are special for you, teaching how improve the tools in SU to make cabinet.
I do this just for fun, as a banking worker i dont have time to play with tose wonderful tools, as you do.