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    • J Offline
      Jim
      last edited by

      Here's one way. There's probably a quick, clever way to do it, but this is just hand stitching. Even so, it doesn't take long.

      Methods I used: copy the arc, scale the arc, draw in the lines. Used end-point inference for everything.

      Smooth out the lines, and then copy around 90 deg. 3 times.

      balister help_jim.skp

      Hi

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      • TaffGochT Offline
        TaffGoch
        last edited by

        woodtogo,

        Hopefully, the notes in the attached model are sufficiently explanatory.

        Your woodworking 'lathe' reference was the clue needed for the rotation 'cutter' technique.

        Regards,
        Taff


        SketchUp 6.0.515(free) / Windows XP

        balister help tut.skp

        "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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        • W Offline
          woodtogo
          last edited by

          Taff,
          Thanks, but I cannot open the file you sent I have su5. Can you convert it for me to su 5? Thanks.
          Ray

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            woodtogo
            last edited by

            Jim,
            I can't open your file since it is created in su6. I am using su 5. Is there a way you can convert it to su 5? Thank-You

            Ray

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            • TaffGochT Offline
              TaffGoch
              last edited by

              Ray, done...

              Regards,
              Taff


              SketchUp 6.0.515(free) / Windows XP

              balister help tut5.skp

              "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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              • J Offline
                Jim
                last edited by

                Ok, version 6 file replaced with v5.

                Hi

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                • Jean LemireJ Offline
                  Jean Lemire
                  last edited by

                  Hi folks.

                  See attached SU file for ideas

                  balister help.skp

                  Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                  • W Offline
                    woodtogo
                    last edited by

                    Jean, need version 5 cannot open your drawing.

                    Taff, working on your idea, although I have 3 hours on this and cannot seem to get to first base. Can't rotate any of the lines I create. I am using green rotate tool and it pulls everything, face and all. I am new at this and I think I may never get what I want here. Although you did just what I wanted, beautiful job. Amazing when you know what you are doing.

                    Jim,
                    I am trying but I haven't got a clue what it is you are doing. Wish I did. All I have is the tutorials to learn by and this stitching is way over my head, I am trying and hoping one of you guys drawings will enlighten me.

                    Ray

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                    • boofredlayB Offline
                      boofredlay
                      last edited by

                      Ray, here is Jean's in V5

                      Download File

                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                      • TaffGochT Offline
                        TaffGoch
                        last edited by

                        @woodtogo said:

                        I am using green rotate tool and it pulls everything, face and all.

                        You're using the correct tool (Rotate,) but you need to toggle the 'copy' mode by tapping the <ctrl> key. Description in the Users Guide:

                        http://download.sketchup.com/OnlineDoc/gsu6_win/Content/D-Modification_Tools/ModTool-Rotate.htm#copying

                        Regards,
                        Taff

                        "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                          sorgesu
                          last edited by

                          If you have version 5, the upgrade to 6 is free. If you upgrade you can use some of the new ruby scripts like:skin.rb to stitch things up for you.

                          Susan Sorger
                          Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                          Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                            sorgesu
                            last edited by

                            You might actually find this version a little faster. It is using the Sandbox Tools to create the desired surface. BTW, you either have the blue axis in the wrong direction or you are intentionally lying the balustraude down on the ground as you build this. It really could be created vertically as it is in my example.

                            balustrade_sandbox.skp

                            Susan Sorger
                            Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                            Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                            • TaffGochT Offline
                              TaffGoch
                              last edited by

                              Ha!

                              Just about everyone had to edit or amend their post to provide a version 5 model (including me.) I guess that demonstrates an advantage provided by the 3D Warehouse. Any version 6 model gets a version 5 model, added automatically to the download options:

                              Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

                              favicon

                              (sketchup.google.com)

                              Regards,
                              Taff

                              "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                                woodtogo
                                last edited by

                                @sorgesu said:

                                If you have version 5, the upgrade to 6 is free. If you upgrade you can use some of the new ruby scripts like:skin.rb to stitch things up for you.

                                Thank-You Susan, your method looks easy to me, but being a newbe, I don't think I have a sandbox tool, at least on my version 5. I have looked and can't seem to find it, unless it is hiding somewhere. The help file does not tell me where to get the sandbox tool.

                                Ray

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Ray,

                                  If you use the free version (?), you won't have the sandbox tool in SU5 just in SU6.

                                  If you have the pro version, first you need to activate it at Window > Preferences > Extensions and then put the toolbar to your window from View > Toolbars.

                                  In either case however I'd take Susans advice and upgrade to v.6.

                                  Gai...

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                                    woodtogo
                                    last edited by

                                    Gai,
                                    Ok found it never knew I had it thanks.
                                    What a lot to learn.....

                                    Ray

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                                      woodtogo
                                      last edited by

                                      Susan,
                                      Thank-You your tutorial was by far the easiest for me to do and follow. I only wish I knew what it was that I was doing. I will try to find all the tutorials on sandbox now and study them to see what else I can do with this tool. I will also work on all the other replys I got and study all the methods used to accomplish this drawing. I only wish I could understand the theory behind what it is I am doing. Taff had the most logical explanation to me, in that a chisel was turning around the stock, and that I can relate to. I feel like a monkey just copying all you guys directions and not knowing what is actually taking place here. But I thank you all for all your help and I have learned that there is more than one way to do what you need to do. Its like learning windows, there are many ways to accomplish the same thing. Everyone was a great help to me Glad to be in touch with such a great bunch of people.

                                      Ray ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                        woodtogo
                                        last edited by

                                        @sorgesu said:

                                        You might actually find this version a little faster. It is using the Sandbox Tools to create the desired surface. BTW, you either have the blue axis in the wrong direction or you are intentionally lying the balustraude down on the ground as you build this. It really could be created vertically as it is in my example.

                                        Susan,
                                        After studing you tutorial, I realized that my spindle is 1 1/4" dia and does not quite fit the 2" dia on my turned base. It just doesn't look quite right, so I have enclosed a copy of my version of the fix I made. I use the technique I learned from you and replaced the 2" circle on the top to 1 1/4" circle raised it 1/4" above the base then followed you advise and used the wonderful sandbox tool, (from contours), and bingo a great looking base for my balisters. Again thanks.

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                                          sorgesu
                                          last edited by

                                          Looks Fabulous to me! I'm glad to be of some use

                                          Susan Sorger
                                          Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                                          Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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