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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
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      There is a reason for not unhiding geometry within groups/components - this way you can always control the visibility of certain elements without needing to put them on separate leayers than the main entity (group/component) is - that can cause serious confusion at the end.

      I use this a lot when I build some components that should align next to each other in long series and I don't want tle dividing lines to be seen between them - see example below.

      Parapet.skp

      Gai...

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      • syburnS Offline
        syburn
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        what sorts od situation warrant nested groups? just a curious newbie Q.

        P: syburn

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          rhankc
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          Gaieus, I see your metric parapet, and I unhid the geometry, and understand, i was using hide to make a complex model easier to see while I work.
          I am working on a model of a house, and the roof is in several groups. Instead of invoking sections to work on the uppermost floor plan I found just clicking on the roof and hiding was an easy way to effectivly work on the second floor; Alternatively, to work on the floor below I could hide the upper floor entities and have excellent visibility if everything in the next floor below.
          I was using it to navighate the model, and I do appreciate that the unhide all has reserves, but if you have a situation like mine you jhave to have the previous sequence of groups on to restore the hidden one(s).

          Syburn: though I learned a very good reason for using the components instead of groups yesterday: A floor system would be a good example for nesting, You have the perimeter thickness as a group, plywood or subfloor can be a group, structural members can be a group...
          another good example would be a custom shower, I used nested components instead, floor pan is component 1, the bench is component 2, the door and glass surround is component 3, the fixtures component 4...
          but themaster component would be the first one drawn..the floor pan, it would contain the others, or you could arrange them all on the same level and component all the components...I jsut seem to go deep as I add detail, the groups/components get added.
          I bet there is a lot better way to do it though.

          Hank

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            rhankc
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            Gaieus, The metric parapet...? what is that? the base is 100.000cm I have been teaching my daughter the metric system this week, and I want to show her the size of the numbers you are using, and the mm, cm usage. thanks

            nevermind. I see the decimal is 3 places to the left. I took that as a comma, I need some specticles.

            Hank

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
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              I just put the parapet together without thinking of the size πŸ˜„
              Obviously it would be too small for a "real" parapet...

              Yes, I usually work with 3 decimals at the end and in centimetres - thats how we teke the measurements in the field so the most convenient for me.

              Gai...

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                rhankc
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                Gaieus, thanks for explaining, I didnt mean to critique you drawing... my edited psot didnt read right and I didnt couldn't re-write the whole thing.
                Anyway, I showed it to my daughter, was able to reinterate a useful metric lesson, and showed her where you were from on GE, You live in a very culturally rich, and architecturally inspired place.

                Hopefully, someone will offer a method to unhide nested geometry?

                Hank

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                • boofredlayB Offline
                  boofredlay
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                  @rhankc said:

                  ...Hopefully, someone will offer a method to unhide nested geometry?

                  Hank, the best way is to use the Outliner. Just expand your components there, see what is hidden then right click and choose Unhide.

                  http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Nested1.jpg

                  http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                  • R Offline
                    rhankc
                    last edited by

                    on mine the light gray is open

                    Hank

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                    • boofredlayB Offline
                      boofredlay
                      last edited by

                      Ok, here is a better example. The top 5 in the nested group are hidden. Select those, or one, and right click - Unhide.

                      And yes Tom (tomsdesk) I am using your shrubbies πŸ’š

                      http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Nested2.jpg

                      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                        rhankc
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                        Really appreciate it Eric,
                        I see the difference on your screenie,
                        For one, I see I need better outliner management, and I was just checking out the old @last tuts; They show having a hidden component category, and physically dragging the selection you want to hide under that heading. I kinda like this idea, so I will know exactly where that hidden label is, when I want to be sure all are on, I'll definately be paying better attention to all these points. I cant hardly get them all back on after hiding. There is one component that stays on in the curtrent job that after hiding all the rest, if I don't pick on the last remaining component, the others wont come back.

                        Hank

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