Open more than one group?

rhankc · 28 Nov 2007, 04:19

What would be the technique for stretching a model of a house that has groups consisting of floor, walls, another floor, 2nd walls and a roof. As far as I can tell you can only edit one group at a time, Can you use the outliner in conjunction with the group edit to open more than one group?

boofredlay · 28 Nov 2007, 04:19

I don't think any program allows that whether it is an Autocad Block, a Revit Family, a Datacad Symbol or a SketchUp Component/Group. Unless I just missed the boat on this one.

Krisidious · 28 Nov 2007, 04:20

yesh I think it's called S.O.L.

lol

DzineTech · 28 Nov 2007, 04:20

@unknownuser said:

I don't think any program allows that whether it is an Autocad Block, a Revit Family, a Datacad Symbol or a SketchUp Component/Group. Unless I just missed the boat on this one.

I cant comment on autocad but this is easily achieveable in Microstation by using a fence strech command.

Krisidious · 28 Nov 2007, 04:21

HOLY MOLY LOOK AT BOO!

you're soo skinny... wow.. your face shrunk...

boofredlay · 28 Nov 2007, 04:22

Thanks Kris.

@dzinetech said:

I cant comment on autocad but this is easily achieveable in Microstation by using a fence strech command.

Can you do this while editing two different groups at the same time? If so that is a neat trick and other programs should take notice. It would be a nice feature to be able to stretch a wall, roof and footing component at the same time in SU.

Autocad does have a fence stretch command but it works on "active" entities. I.E. lines, polylines, dimensions... that have not been designated into a block. And you can stretch as many as you want.
In order to stretch a sofa block for example, you have to edit/stretch the sofa block itself then stretch your walls etc. separately.

DzineTech · 28 Nov 2007, 04:23

Microstation uses the term cells rather than blocks. It also uses 3 types of cells; Orphan cells, Shared and unshared Cells. Orphan cells are another name for groups. Unshared cells are groups of elements brought into a drawing from a cell library file and are completely independant from each other instance within a drawing. Shared cells cannot be edited in anyway within a drawing, only via editing the parent within the library that it is stored within. This sounds like the autocad scenario that you refer to. Microstation has a toggle that allows the user to affect orphan & unshared cells during a fence stretch operation as shown on the attached image.

boofredlay · 28 Nov 2007, 04:24

Nice feature, thanks for the explaination.