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    [Plugin][EVAL] TIG-CutNfill

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    • T Offline
      trickster
      last edited by

      I got the same problem: Cut = 0 Fill = 0 Cut not solid, fill not solid. It generates the cut / fill solids, but states they are not solid and 0 volumes.

      Have tried scaling it up 1,000 times but still no joy.

      In reality this is not practical as you state below:
      "make sure that any proposed and existing surfaces are clearly different in their surface's heights/planes,"

      Most people need to compare two contour terrain models, you can't change the contours just to make the volume plugin work as the design is set...

      So for me I have paid $20 and can't get any useful results from it with using contour created terrain mesh solids

      cheers

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        If you try to do this manually using the native solid-tools you will get the same result.
        If your surfaces are within 1/1000" vertically then SketchUp assumes they are coincident and so edges/faces get omitted and 'solidity' is lost.
        So then no proper volume is formed.
        So, by any means available you cannot get a volume by subtraction if the two objects are not reasonably different...
        Sorry, but it's a simple SketchUp limitation - and it's not this tool's fault...

        TIG

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          Stuart65
          last edited by

          I'm doing everything correct but the plugin fails to calculate the two solid groups.
          I've attached the model, if anyone can please help.


          Untitled02.skp

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            You have NOT named the two groups as explained in the usage guidance...
            You have given the two groups separate Tags, but they are both named 'Group' !

            I renamed them EXTG and PROP [although the second name is unimportant]
            I ran the tool and in 3 seconds here's the result !

            Cut: 31965.8
            Fill: 15770.7


            Total: -16195.1 cu.m

            Try doing what I just explained and try again...

            TIG

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              naumikahejib
              last edited by

              I have been following the guides for the cutNFill instructions on the Sketchup Forum as well as Sketucation. I am facing the same issue as @podanyc (Cut N Fill Plugin - Mesh / Solid Errors & Best Practices)
              I tried scaling the group and using the plugin. However I could not achieve the result and it still shows 0.00 cu.ft.

              I understand that the mesh needs to be simplified.
              Hoping you would be able to take a quick look at the file attached and give any guidance on how to avoid these issues.


              2024.01.16_CutNFill.skp

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Unfortunately your EXTG and PROP groups are very very complex, and have many faces and edges that are almost coincident.
                The native Solids Subtract tool will let you take one from the other, BUT the results are made non-solid, with 0.0 volume.
                Because CutNfill relies on these tools, that is why you can't get meaningful results.

                SketchUp's built-in tolerance is 1/1000" and any edges that would be shorter that that are ignored, as if their end/start points are coincidental, but the tiny gap is not 'healed'. Consequently, any faces relying on such missing tiny edges will fail to form, and the result is a non-solid group with 0.0 volume.

                So you need to make your modeling much simpler and ensure that this tiny geometry issue is sidestepped.
                In real life cut and fill is not an exact science on site, so any approximation does not need to be perfect.

                TIG

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                  chenhong0324 Newcomers
                  last edited by

                  May I know why the values are zero?

                  cutnfill error.png

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                  • C Offline
                    chenhong0324 Newcomers
                    last edited by

                    Hi, @tig

                    May I know why the cut and fill showed zero? Both EXTG and proposed model are solid.

                    CNF ERROR.png

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Unfortunately your EXTG and PROP groups are very very complex, and have many faces and edges that are almost coincident.
                      The native Solids Subtract tool will let you take one from the other, BUT the results are made non-solid, with 0.0 volume.
                      Because CutNfill relies on these tools, that is why you can't get meaningful results.

                      SketchUp's built-in tolerance is 1/1000" and any edges that would be shorter that that are ignored, as if their end/start points are coincidental, but the tiny gap is not 'healed'. Consequently, any faces relying on such missing tiny edges will fail to form, and the result is a non-solid group with 0.0 volume.

                      So you need to make your modeling much simpler and ensure that this tiny geometry issue is sidestepped.
                      In real life cut and fill is not an exact science on site, so any approximation does not need to be perfect.

                      TIG

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                        chenhong0324 Newcomers @TIG
                        last edited by

                        @TIG

                        I've attached the model. Could you please help check whether it can be done?

                        automate testing.skp

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