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    • ntxdaveN Offline
      ntxdave
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      @majid said:

      There are a few tricks to get inside the close volumes; switching between styles maybe is the easiest one. then I place the "look around " tool...

      I really was asking about moving around inside if was a “real” building. 😄

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      • majidM Offline
        majid
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        Do you mind discribing more, please? I can not get you (I am not a native English speaker and so there are language barriars, you know.)

        My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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        • ntxdaveN Offline
          ntxdave
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          A: How do you enter the building?

          B: Once a person is inside the building, how does a person walk around unless the is a floor above the v shape of the bottom of the building sections?

          Again, I am looking at this like a person who builds the building or lives in it. 😄

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          • majidM Offline
            majid
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            Aha, Got it. The question of solving unusable "sharp corners" needs some practice in architecture. The simplest way is to add a decent "room" to part of it. i.e. in "W" I have added a cube to part of it. Rest may be used as storage or a room for the "mechanical" part of the building.
            Please also consider that in this book I was not considered to be practical. The following links also may help, the first is about the 4x4 house (2003) project by Tadao Ando:
            https://en.wikiarquitectura.com/building/4x4-house/
            And this is to brainstorm rules:
            https://www.atlassian.com/work-management/project-collaboration/brainstorming
            I may draw your attention to rule 2.
            During the creativity phase, it would be way better if do not criticize the job. Later on, when "developing" the idea you may adjust it to make it works practically. That was not the purpose of my sketches.
            As you might have seen in the book the original sketch includes an "entrance" room which I have changed in the render.


            web-ww.jpg

            My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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            • ntxdaveN Offline
              ntxdave
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              #2 👍

              I was not trying to be critical (although I understand how it comes across). Part of my problem when doing the stuff is getting caught hop n the “practical” side and not being more “imaginative”. Something I need to practice! 😲

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              • majidM Offline
                majid
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                As far as I know, in all design-related jobs at least two things are inevitable: "Being practical, and not leaving undesigned parts". So you are right about being practical.
                About critics: The tip is that at the early stages (of creativity) one must let it go and prevent criticizing. Then later on, during the development phase, you can make it work.
                About not leaving undesigned: (In architecture) if the designer does not design everything, the builder will do! and they will do on their taste! So preferably it would be better to design everything under one hood.
                My sketches are to encourage creativity and belong to the early stages of the design process (also called schematic design). Needless to say, it is a back-forth process.
                i.e. please see: https://www.masterclass.com/articles/phases-of-the-architectural-design-process

                My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                • ntxdaveN Offline
                  ntxdave
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                  Valid points Majid.

                  In the little experience I have in this area, my job was to produce 3D (isometric) drawing and renders of car was equipment and a couple of times, renders of buildings where the equipment was going to be installed. So a lot of the processes you are talking about had already been done when I was brought into the picture things had already been completed.

                  Thanks to you, I need to step back and experience these earlier stages. 😄 Please don’t give up on me. I want to learn. 😎

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                  • majidM Offline
                    majid
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                    Dave, I am so pleased to share what I know. This way I myself benefit by being criticised and rectified by others!

                    My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
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                      About the inclined architecture we had a French one specialized in this! 😉
                      Claude Parent! (1923 - 2016)
                      Take a look at "La fonction Oblique" in Google image...
                      parent.jpg

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                        ntxdave
                        last edited by

                        Wow Pilou ❗ 👍 👍

                        Majid, you should really enjoy this stuff. I did a search on Bing and there were some awesome images that really kind of fall into your thought pattern.

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                        • majidM Offline
                          majid
                          last edited by

                          Definitely a constructive corroboration!

                          P.S:To give an explanation and make clarification of the inception of the book, let me draw your attention to Bruno Munary's classic book; Design As Art. I read it 3 decades ago but it is still one of the most inspiring books I have ever read.
                          https://www.giuseppegallo.design/books-for-architects-and-designers/design-as-art-by-bruno-munari/

                          My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                          • majidM Offline
                            majid
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                            I found this book (Bruno Munari's book ) very inspiring. I am wondering if anybody else has read it.
                            p.s. Maybe sharing some images makes sense:


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                            My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                            • majidM Offline
                              majid
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                              I am wondering if anyone has read this rather old yet inspiring book?

                              My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                              • Mike AmosM Offline
                                Mike Amos
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                                I am thinking about it but it's a way down the list at the moment, very busy with stuff.
                                It does look very interesting, insightful.

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                                • majidM Offline
                                  majid
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                                  It is worth reading IMO. I found it inspiring and influential.
                                  The good news is that the paperback version of my book is also available: https://lnkd.in/dGkuAFXW

                                  My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                                  • ntxdaveN Offline
                                    ntxdave
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                                    Just looked at the pdf about your book again and I need to go off and play with all the letters some more. I have tried to be too precise which can put restrictions on the building designs. 👎

                                    I am still trying to lear both Krita (for laptop) and Sketchbook for iPad to do my sketching. Hope to be able to post something soon. 😄

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                                    • majidM Offline
                                      majid
                                      last edited by

                                      Good to know that Dave. Can't wait to see your progress. 👍

                                      My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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                                      • ntxdaveN Offline
                                        ntxdave
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                                        In order not to corrupt this thread, here is a link to a “learning/practicing” thread on the Twilight Render forum Learning Thread.

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                                        • ntxdaveN Offline
                                          ntxdave
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                                          Here is my latest “sketch”. Yes, there are some some glitches.

                                          I am working on modeling this in SketchUp (having some challenges).

                                          Q Building sketch

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                                          • majidM Offline
                                            majid
                                            last edited by

                                            It definitely is a big challenge, but your most recent sketch depicts a real progress IMO.

                                            My inspiring A, B, Sketches book: https://sketchucation.com/shop/books/intermediate/2612-alphabet-inspired-sketches--inspiring-drills-for-architects--3d-artists-and-designers-

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