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    L i am
    last edited by 3 Feb 2023, 11:39

    Hi I am trying to duplicate how reflections become distorted as fitted windows never follow the same plane in the real world. It is obvious that I will push pull the planes here and there but the flat also distorts due to compression and tension of the glass plane. I thought of using a normals map to synthesize this. Has anybody any experience in this pleaseReflections.jpg?

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      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by 3 Feb 2023, 12:17

      A Perlin Noise as bump/normal should do. Make it super big, Not a fine noise. That will shift the reflections.

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      • L Offline
        L i am
        last edited by 3 Feb 2023, 13:02

        Thanks Rich, "Perlin noise?

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          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by Rich O Brien 2 Mar 2023, 15:00 3 Feb 2023, 14:27

          Perlin Noise is a procedural texture most render apps have. Also called clouds in PS.

          https://i.imgur.com/RszjLdd.png

          At a regular scale its too detailed for glass. But if you scale it and set the bump really low it will distort your light bounces so your reflection has that real world glass effect.

          https://i.imgur.com/0qfWqhf.png

          Left is default Perlin scale and right is the less obnoxious variant to sell the glass.

          Really small values is all you need.

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            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by 3 Feb 2023, 15:04

            A slighty clearer example of the effect the Perlin Noise has vs no noise...

            https://i.imgur.com/hO2EXZd.png

            ...its subtle but the human eye expects some level of imperfection

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              L i am
              last edited by 4 Feb 2023, 10:45

              Rich would you have a texture for this purpose? I have tried a lot of things but nothing works as I wish it to.

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                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by 4 Feb 2023, 12:37

                Procedural noises are mathematically generated. For this reason they can remain seamless as you scale but also the noise pattern will augment as you scale

                TW doesn't have support for this?

                liam-perlin-height.png

                liam-perlin-normal.png

                Try these. But because they are bitmaps the scaling cannot augment the noise.

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                  L i am
                  last edited by 4 Feb 2023, 14:25

                  Support has been OK........but if I am doing a work getting the answer within 24 hours is a bit optomistic. Have exuasted myself finding the right normals map as they all fell below the bar for replicating how glass works in scale,

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                    L i am
                    last edited by 6 Feb 2023, 11:50

                    I tried many maps, was not convincing though. I used this one from "filter forge" worked well. It was designed for mirrors.
                    Mirror.jpg

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