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      pcmoor
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      You can use find with the item to be found included in the text to avoid the error , and test if the result is within the length of the original text

      Note that semi is placed before in the conditional statements otherwise will not be selected


      using find without error.skp

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        pibuz
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        wonderful! Thanks!!

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          pibuz
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          hi guys! I have a new question: I have a DC which features a choice between type1 and type2. I'd like to have an hyperlink to a pdf showing the technical specs of each choice, so I uploaded both pdfs to an S3 amazon server to have get a valid url.

          Is there a way I can insert the <a href> tag inside a formula, so that the hyperlink changes based on the type1/type2 choice?


          condiz. monoblocco Gazebo.skp.zip

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            pcmoor
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            I am using 2018. however can see problem when referencing in a formula, a suggestion is to put the pages in the value section of the options list


            web page options.skp

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              pibuz
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              As always, thanks a lot!

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                pibuz
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                Hi all you DCs experts!
                I have one silly question: for several reasons, the most complex DCs I have made make themselves unique after a simple copy of the original instance. Given the fact that I have to further investigate why this happens in specific cases, would it be possible to write a plugin which searches all the instances of the same DC and substitutes the identical copies with one single component?

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                  pcmoor
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                  Any DC with nested DC(s) will become unique on a redraw, so I recommend using the definition name as a category rather than an identity, and use the instance name or a custom attribute as the identity. the #number is not considered, the reports "group by" is the instance or custom attribute.

                  If you simplify a DC so its nested components are not dynamic, then the definition #number will remain, so one could consider a method of simplification via a script as a possible solution depending on the DCs concerned.

                  Although you could script a swap for same, that "same" would have to be a simple DC with no nested DCs as the uniqueness would only be triggered again if there is a redraw

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                    pibuz
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                    thanks Phil! Completely understood! Thank you!

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                      pibuz
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                      Sorry to bother again...
                      I have another tricky question: I have issues trying to report attributes assigned to COPIES of the original instance. I mean: the fields areactually correclty compiled but the native reporting tool keeps only the result of the "original" instance.

                      I attach my component (which I'm particularly proud of, maybe naively...).

                      You can spot the issue, for example, if you change the size of the main component eg to 150x100cm. In this case I replicate the inner "Riser_strutt.quadrotta", and the copy is resized to 100x50. If you now enter the component you will see that the copy of the original instance has a "COMP_FIN" attribute changed to 50x100 (dimensions of the tile after the copy).
                      If I generate report using the "8_PRELIEVO" template, I get a quantity of 2 on the string of "quadrotta truciolare Riser", and the "comp_fin" field still reports "100x100".

                      Is there a way I can make this work? or is it impossible?
                      In this second case, my solution would be NOT to modify the copy of the original instance but instead include an invisible pre-set 100x50 component, appearing in the right places(s) when needed... Could this work?

                      THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE!


                      pedana Riser struttura.skp

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                        pcmoor
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                        It has been reported that modified DC copies do not list in the writer, however still no fix, probably unlikely now LCs are the flavor, so we wait while they re-event the wheel instead of fixing thats broken or out of round...

                        https://forums.sketchup.com/t/generate-report-does-not-include-component-copies/80600 (2 years)

                        @unknownuser said:

                        n this second case, my solution would be NOT to modify the copy of the original instance but instead include an invisible pre-set 100x50 component, appearing in the right places(s) when needed... Could this work?

                        I believe this your best option, plus a 50x50

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                          pibuz
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                          Thanks a lot, as usual.
                          I ask you a personal opinion: do you think that the trimble team will dismiss the Dynamic Component system? I've writtena whole load of them..... 😢 😢 😢

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                            pcmoor
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            I attach my component (which I'm particularly proud of, maybe naively...).

                            You should be proud, you have grasp the technical challenges of a relative difficult scripting language and now adding you own spin on it. This is what is going to help you adapt and improve whatever the future changes are.

                            It is clear that LCs is where the development is, hardwired and web savvy.
                            DCs will still be around for 5 years but likely, as before, no development'

                            @unknownuser said:

                            We intend to launch authoring tools for Live Components sometime next year. Being able to author Live Components is just the beginning though. Those apps/tools will expand over the next several years to offer new ways of modeling in conjunction with SketchUp.

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                            Introducing a new kind of SketchUp object: Live Components

                            Today, we are extremely pleased to introduce a new type of configurable object for SketchUp: Live Components. Live Components are built on Materia, a new modeling platform that aims to deliver smart 3D content to Trimble…

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                            I understand they acquired the concept
                            https://forums.sketchup.com/t/introducing-a-new-kind-of-sketchup-object-live-components/139815/33

                            I would agree with Dan on the period ahead...

                            @unknownuser said:

                            The Dynamic Components extension has not had any new features for many many years, and will (most likely) not get any more. SketchUp team has said this before. There are too many extensions (some Trimble) that now rely upon the DCs to remain as they are.

                            It has also been like “pulling teeth” to get errors in the Dynamic Components extension fixed. I do hope (and politic) for all existing easily fixed errors in DC code to be fixed, before it is “retired” to an optional extension.

                            So, it is most likely [speculating] that the Dynamic Components extension would be “frozen” at some version, and thereafter remain as such in the Extension Warehouse as an optional extension. (Ie, it may no longer be distributed as a “default” extension with the SketchUp installer. But [speculating] this is not likely to happen for several major cycles until after Live Components is mature enough.)

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                            LiveComponents vs. DynamicComponents

                            So far I do not see a big difference between Live Components (LCs) and Dynamic components (DC). DCs can react on a click event, so that when clicked on them, an action is performed on the component and they can be scaled…

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                              pibuz
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                              Hi again! I've encontered a critical misfunction, I'm posting this in the hope someone can help me figure out how to dodge this.

                              In the file I attach there's a panel. If I copy the panel, select both copies and change the length, both component react correctly BUT the formulas contained in the last 3 top-level attribute rows are deleted, substituted by their value as fixed number.

                              What can cause this?

                              And secondary: is there a way to apply a certain DC configuration to another DC of the same "family"?

                              Thanks in advance!

                              EDIT
                              Found another user's post showing same issue. Seems to be related to the attribute state set to "User can see". Thanks!


                              auto-erasing formulas.zip

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                                pcmoor
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                                you could use the summary to display the data as the "component info" section is not affected.

                                I suggest you consider using some ruby scripts with your DCs to help with placement, multiple changes....


                                auto-erasing formulas.skp

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                                  pibuz
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                                  Hi all!
                                  Sorry to ask for help again: I'm trying to figure out the simplest way to round a result of a formula to the closest upper value of a list with non constant intervals (e.g. 20,70,180,500)

                                  Do you have any hints for me?

                                  Thanks in advance as usual!

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                                    pcmoor
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                                    nearest
                                    then test if input > nearest
                                    if so find the next value

                                    example 1: use a string of values and string functions to get the next


                                    next largest.skp

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                                      pibuz
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                                      I was almost there 😆 thanks a lot Phil!

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                                        pibuz
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                                        Hi! is there a way to select all locked components? a plugin or a one-line snippet maybe?
                                        Thanks in advance!

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                                          pibuz
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                                          Hi again! I have a new question for Phil 🤣

                                          I have a formula which returns a text string which may contain LUCIDO, SEMILUCIDO or OPACO.

                                          I want another attribute to substitute in that exact string the words LUCIDO, SEMILUCIDO or OPACO with GL100, GL60 or GL25 respectively. Is there a way to do that?

                                          Thanks in advance!

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                                            pcmoor
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                                            Hi Filippo
                                            can use nested SUBSTITUTE

                                            order is important
                                            example attached


                                            SUBSTITUTE.skp

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